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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 September 12 19:02 BST (UK) »
If you have found Sarah and the children in 1911 how many years does it say they have been married?
I assumed she was a widow.  ie Sarah Carter married Mr Smith then later married Septimus.  Maybe Mr Smith did not die until after she was with Septimus so they could not marry officially until 1916?
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 September 12 19:09 BST (UK) »
Sorry to be a pain, Andrea, but where as the name Carter come from.

What I have gleaned so far is Septimus Coulton married Sarah Smith in 1916, she died in 1921 and Septimus went onto marry Ethel Mary Worthington in Aberystwyth, Wales in 1923. My Aunt is a product of that marriage.

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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 September 12 19:13 BST (UK) »
See reply #3 and by careful use of the 1911 index tips you can find others in the household and some are called Carter.
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 September 12 19:35 BST (UK) »
If you have found Sarah and the children in 1911 how many years does it say they have been married?

Marriage to Sarah Carter would have been about 1898/99.

David - try a search for Christina May Coulton, born Devonport, 1907! ;D
That should get you the 1911 census.
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 September 12 19:53 BST (UK) »
I have found the 1911 Census record relating to the May Coulton and the household she was living and the Carter part of it, however, I am not convinced at all thsi has anything to do with Septimus, Sap or Sep.

His marriage to Sarah Smith was not until 1916 so she wouldn't have had his name in 1911.

Secondly, I haven't been able to trace a marriage Sarah Carter anywhere, any year.

David

PS. I haven't said I've found Sarah and the children in 1911!!
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 September 12 20:04 BST (UK) »
You can find them and publish the results without any problem as it is your family.   However the terms and conditions of the sites that have 1911 say it is for private use only so the rest of us can't look for you without breaking them, which rootschat cannot condone.
However, are you saying that this Sarah and kids are not connected with your Septimus?
Have we been following the wrong Septimus?
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 September 12 20:07 BST (UK) »
His marriage, in 1916, would have been at the age of 33?
That's rather old for those times!

I think the rest of us believe that Septimus was married 3 times - 1898/9, 1916 and 1923
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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 September 12 20:12 BST (UK) »
Are there any clues in the Marriage certificate from 1923.   Was he a widower?   Witnesses?

Andrea

Edit - have now looked at the marriage.  Witnesses are no help but he was a widower age 42.  Engineer and father John Carter also an engineer.

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Re: Septimus Coulton
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 September 12 20:24 BST (UK) »
Looking at what I assume is your tree on Ancestry you have the WW1 records stating the address is care of Mrs Ward.  See the replies earlier. That seems to connect with 1911 too.
Andrea