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Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« on: Tuesday 02 October 12 04:28 BST (UK) »
 Hi everyone

 I am searching for the birth certificate for Thomas Gordon a distant relative.

In the 1871 census for Port-Glasgow he is aged 15 and living with relatives at 40 Church Street Port-Glasgow. His birthplace is Lanark

In 1901 he is aged 50(?)--cant read the census document clearly as the enumerator has slashed though the date---  living with  the same relatives at 37 King Street Port-Glasgow and birthplace is given as Lanark.

I have downloaded his death certificate for 4 Jan 1911 at Glenburn Street Port-Glasgow where he was  living with another cousin and he is now aged 45 ( which is probably not correct).

I have tried Catholic Records for his birth/baptism in the period 1850-1870 without success. Tried Scotlands people for his birth using his name and also wildcards for the same period. Too many results this time and ran out of credits very quickly trying a few possibles.

How can I narrow my search further.? According to his death cert his parents who are deceased at the time of his death are John GORMAN and Isabella GORMAN (ms SPITTAL).

 I'm really hoping to find the parents marriage place which I  think may be somewhere in Ireland .

 I would also be very grateful for any help tracing the GORMAN families of Port-Glasgow and Greenock  .

Regards Orkrad



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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 05:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Orkrad

What was his father's occupation on the death cert?
There is a John and Isabella living in Kirk Row, New Kilpatrick, Stirlingshire in the 1871 Scotland census. John's occupation given then was that of Labourer?

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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 22:15 BST (UK) »
 Hi Kinsey

The father's occupation on Thomas's death certificate was Carter.

Thomas(15) and  his sister Catherine (9) are both living with relatives in Port-Glasgow in 1871. Is it possible that the parents were already deceased and Thomas and sister are living with  relatives for this reason?

Any thoughts about this?

Regards Orkrad


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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Orkrad
could I ask the name of the relatives he was living with
as on Ancestry 1901 there is only one Thomas Gorman
but it has him as 30 yrs old(could be mistranscribed)
living with relatives (Tolin) possibly Tolan
he is a rivetter
living with him is a Catherine Gorman same age also a relative
possibly a sister or wife
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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 22:46 BST (UK) »
1901 transcription gives his birthplace as Glasgow, Lanarks

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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 01:31 BST (UK) »
 Thanks Elaine

The relative is Edward Tolin who was present at Thomas's death and lists himself as cousin. I think the age has to be wrong as i am sure Thomas is the same person (living with other members of the Tolin family) who is 15 in the 1871 census,. I think the Catherine listed is his sister as there is no wife  indicated on the death cert for Thomas.

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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 01:38 BST (UK) »
 Thanks Sancti

It's good to know its Glasgow lanarkshire. However there are 15 people of this name in the period 1850-70 in the Glasgow area  and I have tried four so far without success and run out of credits!

I need some help  narrowing my search a little to try to get the correct Thomas.

I also tried to find Catherine (Thomas's sisiter I think) who was also born in Lanark without success.

Regards Orkrad

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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 01:54 BST (UK) »
1891 census
40 Church Street Port Glasgow
Elizabeth Devine-----50------head------born Ireland
Catherine Gorman---34------doesn't say what relationship-----Domestic Servant
Thomas Gorman------26------Nephew-----Labourer/shipyards  birth year 1865
Edward Tollan---------23------Son----------Butcher----born Port Glasgow
John Tollan-------------22------Son----------Rivetter
The rest all born Glasgow Lanarkshire
looking for them 1881
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Thomas Gorman Port-Glasgow
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 02:08 BST (UK) »
1881 census
37 King Street Port Glasgow
Elizabeth Devine------1829 Ireland----Head------Grocer
Catherine Gorman----1859 Glasgow--Neice------Millworker
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison