Collier, John Henry & Elizabeth to Canada

[janjim]

Hi,
My G Uncle John Henry Collier b. 1861 Salford, Manchester England, was living at 25 Belford Street
Salford, and married Elizabeth Caldwell in 1889 at Hulme, Manchester.

We believe he migrated to Canada in 1907, but don't have much details, other than we believe that he lived somewhere in Canada and then moved to Hollywood, Los Angles at some time.

We do not know when he and his wife died.     We think they had one son named Ernest when they migrated.

If anyone could assist me, would really appreciate that.

jan

[crisane]

This looks like them in 1901
RG13/3754/22/36
22 Anderton street Manchester
John H Collier 40  shop assistant, furniture
Elizabeth  39
Ernest son 11
Ethel dau 8
Harold son 2
All born manchester

[janjim]

Hi crisane,
Yes, that definitely looks like him, thank you, and now I wonder when they finally left for
Canada?

Jan

[crisane]

1911 Census of Canada
305 St Helene A, Toronto West
John Henry Collier 50 Gardener  born June 1861
Elizabeth 49 born  June 1861
Ernest 21 Packer in warehouse Born Jan 1890
Ethel 18 Tailoress Born Jan 1893
Harold 12 born Oct 1898
All born England
Religion - Congregational

John Henry and Ernest emigrated in 1907, Elizabeth, Ethel and Harold emigrated in 1909.

[crisane]

This looks like Ernest
Canadian Passenger Rolls
Ernest Collier
age 17, born abt 1890 Lancashire
Arrival date - 13 Sep 1907 at Quebec
Ship - Empress of Britain
Departed - Liverpool, England

Looks like he went back to England for a while.
This trip he says he was in Ontario Canada previously from 1908 for 5 years. Occupation in England, a photographer and in Canada will be a farmer.
Ernest Collier
Age 23 bornabt 1890
Arrival date - 26 Sep 1913 Quebec
Ship - Empress of Britain
Departed Liverpool, England

[crisane]

Elizabeth Collier 47 wife
Ethel 16, no Occupation
Harold 10 child
Arrived 16 Apr 1909 at St John New Brunswick
Ship - Empress of Britain
Departed Liverpool, England

I still can't find a definite voyage for John Henry.

[janjim]

Looking really good so far, thanks for this

[crisane]

Here are John and Elizabeth crossing the border to go to their son Ernest

Border Crossing  Canada to US
John H Collier age 60 no occupation
Elizabeth Collier 60
Arrival Date - Mar 1923 at Port Huron, Michigan, United States
Both born England
Last residence Toronto
Name of relative Son Ernest 81 Roslin Ave Los Angeles California

John and Elizabeth have knocked a couple of years off their ages.

[crisane]

John had a trip back to England. No Elizabeth to be seen with hi. These dates give some indication to their death dates and where.
Border Crossings from Canada to US 1895-1954
John H Collier age 77 years and 4 months born about 1861
Arrived 22 Jul 1938 Quebec, Canada
Ship - Duchess of York
Departed Liverpool, England
Address in US
361 (or 381-has a line through it) Norwich Drive West Hollywood California


These details are entered on the ships log and then crossed out with the entry "Transferred to Canadian Sheet no 29" signed B Andrew Purser.