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BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« on: Sunday 29 May 05 17:29 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find some details for the following individuals:

Caroline Lovegrove BEARD
Elizabeth BEARD - born ca 1822 Shinfield Berks
William BEARD (father)

I know that Caroline married my GGrandfather William WHITE on 9th January 1842 at the "Parish Church" of St Mary Reading.   William BEARD is shown as her father on the Marriage Cert.   Caroline died in 1850.

William WHITE married Elizabeth BEARD in March 1855 (new information - cert on order).

I would be grateful for any information regarding any of these individuals (I would like to find out whether there is a link between Caroline and Elizabeth - sisters ??)

Any information gratefully received.

Harry
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Cornwall / Devon: Arscott, Coram, Cundy, Eastlake, Minedue, Reeve
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Linsell, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 June 05 11:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Harry,
Do you have any information from the census, the 1841? what about the Parish Registers have you found a baptism for Caroline or Elizabeth, were they both Shinfield?
I'm off to the Berks Rec Office this week if time permits I could look for you, if not this week then next week - any good?
Newbie - please let me know.
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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 June 05 18:34 BST (UK) »
Newbie,

This information was fairly new, so I've not yet managed to investigate too far.   I'm still waiting for the marriage certificate for William to Elizabeth.   From the 1841 census, Elzabeth BEARD is living in Shinfield (her father is listed as Thomas), but Caroline is not in Shinfield so I have no positive link between them.   On the face of it, the BEARD surname may be a coincidence.   The problem I have is that Caroline did not appear in the 1851 census (died 1850) so I don't have a place of birth and searching through the 1841 census without knowing a location is not really an option.

The other problem I now have is that I have found William WHITE in the 1841 census in Coley (where I would have expected him), living with Thomas and Mary who I assumed were his parents.   The BIG problem I now have is that there is another William WHITE living there as well, one is 20 or 30 (bad image), the other is 25 (which fits my dates).

So the short answer is, anything you can do to help my research would be gratefully accepted.

Regards
Harry
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My Interests:

Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall / Devon: Arscott, Coram, Cundy, Eastlake, Minedue, Reeve
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Linsell, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Hilsdon, Nichols, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Bell, Fox

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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hello Harry,
As you can guess from my "name" I'm still new to this just 1 year old!
If you give me the reference for the 1841 for White I could look at the film in the BRO it may be better quality?
if you could suggest anything then I will gladly look it up for you, what about the Parish Records?
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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Newbie,

I haven't yet tried the PRs - that was going to be my first attempt at the BRO.

The 1841 image references for WHITE are HO 107/36/3 and 4.

If you do manage to look at these, on further inspection, I think that my William is at the top of the page shown as "Milkman", although the age doesn't fit.

Harry
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My Interests:

Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall / Devon: Arscott, Coram, Cundy, Eastlake, Minedue, Reeve
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Linsell, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Hilsdon, Nichols, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Bell, Fox

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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 16:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Harry,
I have just returned from the BR0 didn't see your reply before I went,  but will be going again soon, so will check then for you,
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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 07:09 BST (UK) »
hello Harry,
just to let you know that I am unable to go this week but will definitely be going next week and will do the look up then if you have anything else just let me know
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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 16:12 BST (UK) »
Newbie,

Made my first trip to the BRO as I had a few days off.   I have sorted out the BEARD line from Elizabeth - a family of 13 (all in Shinfield).   I am now sure that there are two BEARD lines.   The Caroline Lovegrove one is not my main focus.

Thanks very much for your offer.

Harry
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My Interests:

Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall / Devon: Arscott, Coram, Cundy, Eastlake, Minedue, Reeve
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Linsell, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Hilsdon, Nichols, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Bell, Fox

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Re: BEARD - Reading or Shinfield
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 06:44 BST (UK) »
okay Harry, glad you sorted out your Caroline.
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