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KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« on: Tuesday 23 October 12 22:17 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find more about Georg and Anna Kaina (aka Kasner) who arrived on the 'Albert' from Capetown Nov 1864 with their children, Maria, Anna, Elisabeth and Frederick and I believe were farming in the Waipipi area. Frederick died without leaving a son so the Kaina family name was lost. Georg was on the 1881 Electorl roll as 'Farmer, Waipipi'. Anna (the daughter) was my maternal gr grandmother.
Any info appreciated!

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 October 12 22:56 BST (UK) »
On NZ BDM there is the birth of a Frederick John KAINA 1879. Parents Frederick & Elizabeth.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 October 12 23:21 BST (UK) »
Well... how did I miss THAT! Thank you.
Looks like Anna (the mother) died in 1903 too.

The family was Wendish, from Drehnow, Prussia. They emigrated to Sth Africa via Hamburg in 1859, then on to NZ. There was another daughter too that I forgot to mention  - Christiana, and I have found what happened to all the children except Elisabeth (aka Lissa).
I did think it was her who married Lawrence Hanlon in 1882, but that was Frederick's widow!
Would really like to know what became of Lissa, and find a date of death for old Georg, (and now - Frederick John!) Maybe one day...
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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 October 12 23:35 BST (UK) »
Have pm'd details of a Kaina death 2011, together with that of Anna 1903 (aged 92) and Frederick 1879 (aged 30).

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 October 12 23:54 BST (UK) »
You probably already have this:

Marriage of Frederick Kaina 1877 to Mary Elizabeth Waddoups.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 00:02 BST (UK) »
From "Papers Past":

New Zealand Herald, 30.11.1864, the arrival of the 'Alfred Bremen' from Cape of Good Hope.

Includes passengers-

Mary Elizabeth & Matilda Waddoups.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 01:39 BST (UK) »
A little more from "Papers Past"

The New Zealand Herald, dated 31.8.1875,

Waiuku Court, "man named Kaina..............etc.,"

Same newspaper dated 4.5.1876,

Land Sale- Frederick Kaina, Parish of Onewhero.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 02:56 BST (UK) »
On NZ BDM there is the birth of a Frederick John KAINA 1879. Parents Frederick & Elizabeth.

Minniehaha.

Hi LloydG

Following the re-marriage of Frederick John's mother (Mary Elizabeth), he may well have been brought up under the surname of his step-father, Lawrence Francis HANLON ?

Possible death ?

1917 / 5240 - HANLON - Frederick John - 37 years   [bc 1880 ]

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 03:24 BST (UK) »

I am trying to find more about Georg and Anna Kaina (aka Kasner) who arrived on the 'Albert' from Capetown Nov 1864 with their children, Maria, Anna, Elisabeth and Frederick.



 There was another daughter too that I forgot to mention  - Christiana, and I have found what happened to all the children except Elisabeth (aka Lissa).


Hi again

Re: Your search for the daughter "Lissa".

Just thought I should point out a number of "discrepancies" which exist in the various passenger listings for those who were aboard the "ALBERT" 1864.  One of the listings (ex Archives NZ) just makes me wonder whether "Lissa" in fact existed ?

I expect you already have the KAINA family details (indexed as KASNER), from the Auckland Libraries Passenger Lists indexes ?   And there is a child "Lissa" on that list.

*  The list of immigrants per the "Albert" as published in the
"New Zealand Herald" (and mentioned earlier) - 18 November  1864 - Shipping Intelligence, records the KAINA family, thus >

Christian and Frederick KALNER;      George, Anna, Marie, Ann E and Lisa KALNER;
[Spellings as per newspaper article. ]

*  The "Daily Southern Cross" (Auckland) also published the immigrant's list - 18 November 1864 - where the family is named as "KASNER"  [and the other associated family as, "WADDOPS"  ;D ]

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