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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 03:49 BST (UK) »
... continued -- Immigrants per the "ALBERT" to Auckland - arr. 18 November 1864 :

Then there is this list ... which according to the acknowledgement at bottom of page, has been transcribed from the passenger list, held by Archives New Zealand. [I can't guarantee it, but would like to think the info provided is accurate. ]

The family's name is shown as KAINA ... but there is no "Elisabeth / Elizabeth, or Lissa" ?

Per "ALBERT" - 1864 (Archives NZ Ref: Micro 5019 )

KAINA

-- George - 48 years - Labourer
-- Anna (48)
-- Marie (27)
-- Ann (21)
-- Christiane (17)
-- Frederick (10)*


[Note: I see Frederick KAINA died 1879 aged 30 years [bc 1849 ]. The age on the passenger list has probably been mistransribed ? (e.g. depending on the handwriting, a "16 (or 15)" might have looked more like a "10" ? ]

So if the Archives' holding is a copy of the ship's original manifest, then that would be the most reliable source of passenger information.

~ Lu


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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 04:03 BST (UK) »
Can we find the burial place of Anna, the mother who died in 1903 aged 92 years? This may lead us to the burial place of her husband George. One suspects that his surname may be indexed under another spelling at BDM.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 04:11 BST (UK) »

 Anna (the daughter) was my maternal gr grandmother.


Hi again Lloyd

Just thought I'd ask, because I can't see a marriage for Anna (the daughter).

* Did Ann / Anna, have a second christian name ?

The newspaper article had her name as "Ann E" and it made me wonder whether she had a second name - perhaps "Elisabeth" ? And also whether she had been shown on the list as "Ann E" (with Lissa or Lisa as a pet name ?), so as to distinguish her from her mother. ??? [Sure, having the ages of passengers would / should, be enough to tell them apart. ;D But often too the clerks recording the immigrant's names, got them wrong - especially the unfamiliar "foreign" names. ]

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 06:09 BST (UK) »
Quote from: minniehaha
Can we find the burial place of Anna, the mother who died in 1903 aged 92 years?


Hi Minnie,

Maybe the following. Maybe not...

Anna KAMA - Waikumete Cemetery - d.o.d 14 Jun 1903
http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/cnlser/cm/cemeterysearch/cemeterydetails.aspx?id=160478

BDM NZ Deaths - 1903/2494 - KAINA, Anna - 92 years - d.o.d 14 Jun 1903


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... the burial place of her husband George. One suspects that his surname may be indexed under another spelling at BDM.

Maybe the following for George

BDM NZ Deaths - 1897/5530 - KAIUA, George, 83Y

Can't see any obvious burial. May need to check microfiche for a location to see if it's worth chasing up.

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Beg

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 06:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Beg,

Re Anna, I think maybe....... The "I" & "N" could look like an "M" is written closely together (?)

I will try and do a newspaper look up for this, if Lloyd has not already got a copy.

If I have time, I will try for George as well because that looks promising too. Can you do a date for me on that one too?

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 06:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Minnie...

5 Nov 1897

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 06:43 BST (UK) »
Excellent Beg. I will have a crack at these.


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 06:56 BST (UK) »
"Papers Past" again:

Don't know if this entry belongs to you Lloyd, but in the Auckland Star dated 22.8.1900 there is an item about the Renewal of Old Age Pensions to........... Kaina Anna (Maori) 18.00. All the other names are shown with Christian names first.

Minniehaha.

HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: KAINA family Waipipi/Waiuku area
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 09:00 BST (UK) »
I see the funeral director for Anna Kama was C LITTLE & SONS LIMITED ,the records for Littles are at the Auckland Library and usually contain all the information for the death cert.

Cheers Janette