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marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« on: Wednesday 24 October 12 21:35 BST (UK) »
Could someone please tell me if there is anyway of finding these records? Eliza Dyer and John Horgan. married Coolbanagher 20 Aug 1861. I would like to buy the certificate but can't find the details to help as I don't know if they married in a church or not and am unsure what religion they were.  ??? many thanks

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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 22:01 BST (UK) »
If the marriage was non-Catholic then it would be included in civil records, and you can check for it on the usual BMD Index, and if you find a possible match, order a cert from the GRO.

If the marriage was Catholic then you would have to check for a church record of the marriage as these were only included in civil records from 1864.

see : Introduction to Irish Records

how do you know the date for the marriage ?


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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 22:13 BST (UK) »
your previous topic on the Dyer family stated that the marriage was in a registry office - see :

  Re: Joseph DYER from Emo  (reply #8)

I presume this is the extracted version of the marriage from FamilySearch :

  Groom: John Horgan
  Bride: Eliza Dyer
  Marriage date:  20 Aug 1861
  Marriage place: Coolbanagher, Queens Co.
  Groom's father: Jeremiah Horgan
  Bride's father: Joseph Dyer
  Ref.: p259 ln67

see : https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGCC-QJF

and the corresponding BMD Index reference (the year and page number and general area match the extracted record) :

  Name: Eliza Dyer
  Registration district: Mountmellick
  Event type: Marriage
  Year: 1861
  Volume: 8 / Page: 259

the fact that this is included in the Civil BMD Index means that it was a non-Catholic or Registry Office marriage.

You can use the Index references to order a research cert, which will give you a few more details on the marriage, from the GRO by post. See :

  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
  Details included on a Marriage Cert



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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 October 12 22:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you Shane. That was exactly what I was after. I wasn't sure just how to proceed from finding the family search info. Heartfelt thanks....


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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 January 13 12:11 GMT (UK) »
Maybe they married in the C of I Church in Coolbanagher?  Records held in RCB Library in Dublin.  I know that there were Dyers in the parish.

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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 January 13 07:11 GMT (UK) »
I have the marriage certificate now, thanks. They were married in the parish church at Coolbanagher.
Now, can anyone tell me just where Killamy is? I have searched the townlands and can't find it.!! :D

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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 January 13 08:11 GMT (UK) »
The only townland I see in Coolbanagher parish beginning with 'Kil' is 'Killimy'

What's the context of the 'Killamy' address - bride or groom ?

The marriage would usually take place in the bride's current parish of residence, but the groom could be from another area.


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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 January 13 09:21 GMT (UK) »
just spotted a Joseph Dyer on Griffith's Valuation at Killimy townland, Coolbanagher parish in 1851.

maybe Eliza's father ?



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Re: marriage in Coolbanagher 1861
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 January 13 12:14 GMT (UK) »
http://www.laois.ie

Is Laois County Council website;
Top right hand corner-Map it
Scroll down to Emo-Killimy is featured on the map.
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