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"The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« on: Tuesday 30 October 12 00:28 GMT (UK) »
"The Yorkshire Grey" was a Coaching Inn in Brentwood and at some point (probably between 1850s and late 1860s) was run by John Mott.

I know that John Mott was a retired Inn Keeper according to the 1871 census and was then living in "The Limes", Crescent Road, South Weald.  And I also have BDM records for his extended family But I would like to know more about "The Yorkshire Grey" and whether it was part of the estate that John Mott apparently entailed on his son ( but was lost through death duties at about the end of WWI).

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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 12 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Try asking the Brentwood Museum - http://www.brentwoodmuseum.org.uk/Brentwood_Museum/Contact_us.html - if they don't know, they may well know someone who does?
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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 12 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Looking at 1861 (RG9 1075 43 16) the Motts are at the "Yorkshire Grey" which is in HIGH Street, in the parish of South Weald.
Looking at the enumerators district, this looks like the part of what we would now call Brentwood High Street, that goes from the end of the shopping area down to the M25. This is South Weald parish (although nowadays thought of as Brentwood Town)

I wonder about the Yorkshire Grey. Pubs down there are the Golden Fleece and The NAgs Head, ther may be others, but I dont know of a Yorkshire Grey nowadays.
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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 12 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I correct myself - it is only the top end that is High Street, the M25 end is called Brook Street

There is supposed to be something about the Yorkshire Grey on here
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63844

I cant see it easily!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 07:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Lizdb and Graham

Is there some kind of central record of Pub ownership?  I was hoping to confirm whether they were tennants or owners.

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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi cannot fully answer your last question, but John Mott and the post John Mott era are on "The Essex, Herts, Kent, & Sussex 1855 Publican Directory"   I just googled The Yorkshire Grey Brentwood!

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Re: "The Yorkshire Grey" Coaching Inn, Haigh St Brentwood
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 08:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks

I can get them there in 1861 and 1862 but not before that and by 1863 resident is a Henry Young.

I am still trying to work out why the leap from farmer up to 1841 or thereabouts (Noak Hill) to Inn Keeping. In 1851 he was at the Bull Inn in Writtle.

And prior to all that he was in Belchamp St Paul which seems a lot of moving about for the times

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