Looking for 2 lost ships 1826 & 1829

[Flattybasher9]

grosjean545, have you looked at this ship list :-

http://www.sashipwrecks.com/WebT.htm

Regards

Malky

[Mole]

grosjean - I should clarify my statement re the SA Commercial Advertiser not being available online - EXTRACTS from this newspaper (transcribed by Sue Mackay) can be viewed at

http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=1&Itemid=2

However, on searching these I did not find the relevant reports on the Harmony.

Mole

[grosjean545]

Thank you, Mole and Malky, for your answer! 

Unfortunately, on this list http://www.sashipwrecks.com/WebT.htm, there's no reference about Harmony or Thomas.

Now, I try to find more information about the second ship, coasting brig Thomas. I have got only one reference for her captain (Cape Almanach 1829 on Ancestry24 said Robert Butler), but sometimes, there are some mistakes on Almanach. So I would like to find another one.
I hope it could be a mistake, because I try to find what Richard Butler, captain of the Harmony, did after the loss of his ship.

Sincerely, 

[Flattybasher9]

You have to change the search letter in the search-bar to "H" from "T" to get the information about the Harmony.

http://www.sashipwrecks.com/WebH.htm

Regards

Malky

[Mole]

That's a good link for SA wrecks, Malky - unfortunately no sign of the relevant Thomas wrecked 1829. The Harmony 1826 is certainly listed.

grosjean, you need a friendly researcher to see those SA Commercial Advertiser reports on the Harmony, at least.  The Thomas may also have been reported in the same newspaper but more difficult to find if the ship simply went missing - and no precise date for a report about this.

No guarantees, of course, that Captain R Butler's first name will be mentioned.

Mole

[grosjean545]

Thank you for your answer, 

The 'Thomas' left Cape Town about march 24th (1829). First "apprehensions" about her safety about april 1829 and some references in Newspapers about june-july 1829. It's, for now, all I've found online.

I wil try to find someone who can look-up into South African Commercial Advertiser.

Regards.

[gingerbit]

An article in to-day's Durban paper caught my eye and remembered you were interested in lost ships.
Vanessa Maitland is a Maritime archaeologist in the Durban area and has registered an internet domain where people can share their information. It looks as if it's not quite up and running yet but she is on Linkedin and Facebook. I know Durban is not your area of interest but perhaps she has some information which could help.
The internet site is www.shipwrecks-sa.com and I quote "It will be one big database. Access will be free. The information will be as good as you share."
Hope this will be of use
Gingerbit

[grosjean545]

Thank you for this information.
I will try to contact her, and perhaps, she could help to find more about theses ships.
For now, I found no one to take a look into South African Advertiser about the first one (Harmony) and no more information about the second one (Thomas)... but I keep hope...

An article in to-day's Durban paper caught my eye and remembered you were interested in lost ships.
Vanessa Maitland is a Maritime archaeologist in the Durban area and has registered an internet domain where people can share their information. It looks as if it's not quite up and running yet but she is on Linkedin and Facebook. I know Durban is not your area of interest but perhaps she has some information which could help.
The internet site is www.shipwrecks-sa.com and I quote "It will be one big database. Access will be free. The information will be as good as you share."
Hope this will be of use
Gingerbit

[sandyc2]

I don't know if you already have this reference:

The Cape of Good Hope Government Gazette
Friday September 9, 1831

Deaths in Cape Town
Sept 4:  A son of the late Capt. Richard Butler, named Richard Francis, aged 3 years, and 21 days

Regards
Sandy