looking for family, surname French or Hayden

[homerj]

I had also pulled out a poss

death cert for peter french cert 1932 age 77 vol4 pg511 fhl 101739

and

Catherine poss death cert 1929 age 68 vol4 pg502 fhl 101737

but not sure if that would put peter french still in ireland (having returned from Birkenhead) or still in birkenhead

[shorts]

not sure if you already have this ....a possible Hayden/Kehoe marriage from the BMD Index

  name: Thomas Hayden
  registration district:   Wexford
  event type: Marriage
  Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1891
  Volume : 4 /  Page : 588

The same references appear for a Sarah Kehoe.

see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
        Details included on a Marriage Cert

Shane

Thomas Hayden married Sarah Kehoe on 25 January 1891 in Bride St church.  Looks like the Hayden's originated from the historic town of Ferns.

[shorts]

This is the baptisim record for Ellen Hayden born 10 December 1884, one of the other step children stated in the 1901 census. So it would appear that Thomas Hayden's first wife, Mary Ann Murphy possible died some time between 30th August 1887 (birth of the last step child Anastasia) and 25 January 1891 when Thomas married again to Sarah Kehoe.

[homerj]

shorts 

many thanks again that really does pull things together for me and i guess FranJ too

im now wondering if the catherine murphy wife of Peter French b. 1856 married in 1880 is related to the mary ann murphy (first wife of thomas hayden)

all my original chart was built up from just the census records but the marriage and baptism records really cement things together

homerj

[shorts]

ah ha yes that one is a mistery,

our guess at the moment is that they use the term grand daughter loosely and she's a relative of sorts.

...not sure about how the ages, and various relationship fit together ... Thomas is 30 in 1901, yet has an 11 year old grand-daughter?

Ellen Fitzgerald was born on 19 June 1889. Her Mother was a Mary A Kehoe, more than likely a sister of Sarah Kehoe making Ellen a Niece rather than a Grand Daughter.

(Ellen’s Bride St church Baptism record also provides her subsequent marriage details, marrying twice, in 1910 & 1916.)

Ellen’s father James Fitzgerald is possibly here in the 1901 census – the only viable entry within Wexford Town.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001299382/

He’s described as a Widower which may explain why Ellen was living with her Aunt Sarah in 1901.

By 1911 James was now living in the household of a Francis Kehoe and his relationship is described as a ‘half brother in law’.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003617123/

This would suggest that Francis Kehoe was a Brother to Mary & of course Sarah too.

[shorts]

Ellen Fitzgerald's Cousin Mary Hayden (aged 9 in the 1901 census) was a witness to her marriage on 16 October 1910.

[shorts]

Just to finish up on Ellen, she re-married on 26 June 1916. Her Father James was now living in Gretna Green (Scotland) !!

Her witness this time was Anastasia French - not sure re her place of residence.

[homerj]

hi again

your searching is pretty cool

certainly looks good to explain the relationships of the younger family members.

I now have another strand to follow in Gretna Green :-)

The Anastasia French mentioned as witness to Ellen's marriage is most likely my grand mother who from 1911 census shows living at 33 Fishers Row Wexford age 25 and 23 living with uncle John Murphy 48 journeyman shoemaker. will see if I can find out what the location name is as per the item you have found but we know that Anastasia when married lived in a house in Batt Street before they eventually moved to Liverpool late 1938 but no idea of location in wexford between 1911 and 1938
 

have a great Christmas
homerj

[homerj]

t