O'Brien Ballybeg Glin Limerick 1900's

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Hi Looking for family information on the O'Brien's (William+James) that lived
in Ballybeg Glin County Limerick early 1900's
Thanks
HC

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Hello
My name is Sean Wallace and I am  from Glin Co. Limerick.  I am also a genealogist   (website ROOTSLINKED.com.)
 Your query is most interesting as I was  only yesterday asked  about the  whereabouts of Ballybeg . I  had never heard of a place  called Ballybeg in Glin despite growing up there.I thought it might be a local name for a townland called  something else  nowadays. We have a couple  already  like "Scart "  which is Glenagragra or Clogough  which is Ballyguiltenane  Lower.

 Ballybeg is now called Kilfergus  townland since about 1840 and in Census 1901 and 1911 it is in the D E D of Glin.
 Glin is the R.C parish and Kilfergus Parish is the  equivalent Civil Parish   on  which  all official  records  are  based.
 Kilfergus  townland once called  Ballybeg however  is actually in the Civil Parish of Loughill or Loghill (Old  spelling )

 James O' Brien  an unarmed  constable in the DMP  police force was on duty in Dublin Castlein April 29 1916 and  was shot  dead  by a rebel  called O'Casey.
 James  parents  were Cornelius O'Brien  and Mary Ahearn. His grandfather  was James O'Brien.  In 1911 his brother William is in the home  place  married but  no  mention of  children. I will enquire further in to this  to  see who did the  farm pass on to. email me  anytime

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Sean Wallace. Amendment to previous  entry. The  rebel's name  was Sean Connolly   not  Casey
  It  would  appear  that  James O'Brien  was unmarried  here is the inscription  from his   tombstone

 Graveyard:  Kilfergus  Cemetery








Exact wording of epitaph:



Sacred
To The Memory Of
Constable
JAMES O'BRIEN
Who Died On 24TH April 1916 From Wounds
Received Whilst Gallantly Doing
His Duty As A Member Of
The Dublin Metropolitian Police
Erected By His Sorrowing
Brothers And Sisters
And By The Subscriblers Of The Irish Police
And Constabulary Reconition Fund.

People commemorated
First person
 
Title:


Constable



 Name:  James



 Surname:  O'Brien



 Date of death - day:  24



 Date of death - month:  April



 Date of death - year:  1916



 Age:  48 years



 Address:  Kilfergus, Glin



 Number of people commemorated:  1


Notes:



Information Passed on :-
Killed During Easter Raising
By Sean Connolly
Whilst "Unarmed"



 Memorial Type:  Celtic Cross

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HappyChappy did you find out more in 2012 when you previously looked for information?  Previous request

NLI piece on Constable James O'Brien #168B DMP 9862
1901 census
1911 Census


William, his wife, parents and sister on the 1901 census as referred to
William and his wife on the 1911 census; they were married 15 years and had no children

There is a church marriage record for them
William O’BRIEN Ballybeg, Glin
to Ellen STACKPOOLE, Tullileague, Glin
on July 29 1897
in Glin RC Church registered in Tarbert No. 2 Civil District
Witnesses were John CULHANE and Jane STACKPOOLE

Cornelius O'BRIEN m Mary AHERN in Glin RC on Feb 17 1855

They had at least 9 children who were all baptised in Glin RC as BRIEN:
1 Johanna bap. 02 Oct 1856 who must have died an infant as there is a second Johanna
2 Patrick bap 29 Dec 1858
3 Mary bap 15 Jun 1859
4 Johanna bap 15 Dec 1860
5 James bap 11 Apr 1862 who must have died an infant as there is a second James
6 Bridget bap 23 Jan 1864
7 William bap 14 Aug 1865
8 James bap 13 Feb 1868
9 Cornelius bap 04 Jan 1871

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This Happy Chappy's topic is 2½ years old (the other is 3 years old)
and as he requested a Private Message (PM) on current relatives
he may already have received his answer
but neglected to update the public topic for users of the site to be aware

However, he may well still require information on this family we will have to await a reply!
I note he has not been online since last year though

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next year we are celebrating  the 1916 rebellion and already preparing for it. I knew that someone  from Glin was shot at Dublin Castle but didn't know for sure that it was James O'Brien who was  shot. There was  another casualty  from Glin  in WW1 from named Willy Sheahan  and I got these mixed up.
 The Civil War that followed the War of Independence left bad memories so the whole  thing was  rarely discussed so I never heard the detail about O'Brien. I'm curious to know now where the rest of the family went and I probably knew some of them  growing up.

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It is amazing how some people are forgotten and become lost over time

You may be interested in this article on Constable Patrick Sheehan
He died attempting to save the life of a man trapped down a manhole in 1905
He was from Glin also.
He had been the last DMP to die in service previous to James O'Brien

Patrick had a brother John who was also in the DMP; John's grandson John was one of the Dubliners

Their parents were Edmond SHEAHAN and Mary MULVIHILL
Other siblings at least were Cath 1872, Maria 1877 and Helen 1881
Johanna is also referred to in his obituary; Margaret and Bridget are referred to on the 1901 census

Family on 1901 census and on 1911 census

I do not know if the William you refer to is their relative

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 Willy Sheahan was from another  family . Both of Willy's parents were Sheahans unrelated  apart  from marriage  and to complicate things his uncle Sheahan  married  Willy's  aunt Sheahan , a  double  match  was  made, 2 brother Sheahans  married  2 sister Sheahans. Morty  Sheahan   brother of  Willy lived next to Ballyguiltenane School where I went to school.
I knew all about Patrick Sheahan as he was a distant relative , his  great grandmother was Wallace but I have never been able to prove it. Both Paddy and Jack Sheahan  used to call to our house  whenever they were on  holidays from Dublin  as they were aware that they were cousins

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Very interesting - happy searching and I neglected to mention "Welcome to the site"