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Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« on: Sunday 30 December 12 17:48 GMT (UK) »
John Handley
My great grandfather
Birth 1839 approx in Coreley, Salop, UK
Death 25 May 1913 in 10 Lower Mill St, Ludlow, Salop, England

1 Oct 1861
Age: 22
Marriage to Emma Morris
Parish church of Stanton Lacy. Witnesses Job Garbett & Sarah Underwood. Groom's father dead. Bride's father James Morris. Groom a labourer.

Although I know quite a bit about John, his birth details are inconclusive. Can anyone help find out about the family he was born into and when? According to censuses etc he was born 1839 - 1842 approx. Also I do not know where he was for 1851 census. Seems to have spent his life in the Ludlow area.

Thank you for reading this post.
Barbara  :)

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Re: Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 December 12 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi

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Groom's father dead

Unusual to show no fathers name even if he was deceased.
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Re: Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 December 12 18:43 GMT (UK) »
He is probably the 3 year old John Hundley living in Coreley in 1841 and the 13 year old John Harley born Corley (as is) Shropshire in 1851. 
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 December 12 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi

What about this baptism on FS

John Hanley bp. 15 Aug 1841   CORELEY,​SHROPSHIRE. Parent: Susan Hanley.

No father listed

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Re: Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 December 12 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Claire,

I have been wondering about Susan being his mother too  ::) 

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Coreley - JOHN HANDLEY - birth information needed
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 December 12 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your suggestions. I had come across some before without any resolution but not the  1851 census for the Harley family. This seems to support the other records as being real possibilities. If John's mother was Susannah Preece, would this suggest she was unmarried when having him and later married a Mr Preece. Also it would appear John was two years old when baptised. Does anyone know if I could access the relevant parish records on line to confirm the baptism is indeed my great grandfather's? I also need to try and find out if Susannah married a Preece.
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