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Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« on: Monday 31 December 12 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

Hope someone can help me with this!

The Tracey Family in question are:

William Daniel Tracey b1876/78 Liverpool, Lancs, England & d? Brooklyn, New York, USA
Emily Florence Tracey b14th July 1880, Liverpool, Lancs, England & d? Brooklyn, New York, USA
Colin Gordon Tracey b4th May 1917, Liverpool, Lancs, England & d28th July 1993 New York, USA

William Daniel seems to have travelled across 2 or 3 times between 1918 & 1920 as i have 3 passenger lists for him, Florence & Colin followed in 1925 & i have that passenger list as well.

The 1930 US Census has the 3 of them in Brooklyn, Kings County, NY (Districts 1251-1500), i only have a printed transcription of this one, so don't have an actual address for them!

This is where things get a little tricky!

On a family tree i found, Florence was shown as having died in 1931 in Buffaloe Bay, USA. I have since found Florence on the 1940 US Census & taking out US Naturalization in 1943, so the tree must be wrong unless they were naturalizing ghosts! lol ;D

1940 US Census has them at 2563, East 27th Street, Brooklyn, NY, with William Daniel listed as a Carpenter, Industry shown as Steamship. Florence is shown as Emily Florence aged 59 with no occupation. Colin Gordon is 22 & shown as being a distributor & industry shown as Motion Picture Film Company! I wonder what he did exactly? Colin is also shown as being married but no wife shows up with him. Could sks possibly find a marriage for him probably between 1935 & 1940.

All 3 took out US Naturalisation in 1943, Colin Gordon on 12th Aug 1943 & still at the East 27th Street address, but Florence when she did hers on Dec 16th 1943 was residing 4677 Bedford Ave, Brooklyn, NY. I have the Nauralisation cards for these 2. However i did find one for William Daniel also in 1943 but haven't got the card for him & i don't have the date of it to hand either. If anyone can help with this record it would be appreciated.

Finally the death records of William Daniel & Florence Emily, which i have not been able to locate. both died sometime between 1943 & 1962 when i believe the US social security numbers started. The family tree that had Florence Emily dying in 1931 (which is quite obviously wrong!) also states that William Daniel died in 1953 but doesn't say where. However with one wrong it is quite possible that the other could quite well be wrong as well!

Sorry if this rambles a bit, quite a bit of info fit in!

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards

David
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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 06:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

Believe this to be the wife of Colin - Joan M Tracey

Joan M. Tracey. Born 14th October 1920 and died 20 th December 2004
Last Residence: 14612  Rochester, Monroe, New York. 
SSN was issued in New York (Before 1951)

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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 06:36 GMT (UK) »
City Directory Entries from 1948/1951 - 148 Lapham Rochester shows Colin G and Joan Tracy. Colin occupation:- Stock Clerk.

1953/54 Colin and Joan are at h 2850 Ridgeway Ave, Rochester. NY (Roch13) Gr - EK Co
Also showing is William   r  2850 Ridgeway Ave (Roch) 13 Gr

1957 shows Colin and Joan but no William

1959 Colin and Joan  EK Co h 2850 Ridgeway Ave (Roch 15) Gr

1960 Colin (Joan M)  with EK Co h 2850 Ridgeway Ave (Roch 15) Gr

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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 06:41 GMT (UK) »
US Naturalization Record Indexes - William Daniel Tracey - 1876 and aged 66 years
2563 E27th St Bk. Petition :- 358614  - Alien Redg:- 3577869
Issued 29 Dec 1942  Eastern District of New York, District Court.

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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Many thanks indeed for your replies & the info, much appreciated!

Looks like according to this info that Florence Emily died between 1943 & 1953/54 & William Daniel between 1953/54 & 1957 going by the City Directory info!

I wonder if the 1953 date of death for William Daniel is right after all! Also i wonder if they meant 1951 rather than 1931 for Florence Emily, hmmm!

Many thanks again.

Kind regards

David
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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 15:44 GMT (UK) »
An obituary in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle on www.fultonhistory.com shows that Florence Emily Tracey died 17 Jun. 1949.  She was survived by husband William Daniel & son Colin.  Services at the residence at 4677 Bedford Ave.  Internment at Evergreens Cemetery. 

Regarding Social Security numbers, the Social Security system started in 1933, but the Social Security death index mainly has deaths from 1962 to the present.

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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi shellyesq,

Many thanks for you reply, its greatly appreciated.

I tried the link for the obituary, but couldn't find it, nearest i got to 1949 was 47 or 69! Many thanks for the info anyway!

Re the Social Security system, i was never entirely sure exactly what was what anyway, so thanks very much for clarifying that for me, much appreciated!

Kind regards

David
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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

Try again Florence Emily Tracey - all the words (should come up as the second article - last item mentioned in the news for that day -  left hand column.

OR Tracey Florence Emily to bring it up as the first article listed.  ;)

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Re: Tracey Family - New York, Marriage, Death & Naturalization Records Needed!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra,

Many thanks indeed, have got it now, should have realised that less is better! lol ;D

On the first attempt i had put everything in the search box, her name, paper name & date! ah well, we live & learn!!

Many thanks!

Kind regards

David
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