swain

[tinabrown1953]

Could I please have the 1901 census info for Ellen Swain b 1871 Yorkshire (spouse Frank).
Would like to know where she was born and where living.

Also the 1871 census for Charlotte Swain b 1832 Belper Derbyshire. (household no 347)
Trying to find husband's name. She was widowed by 1881 but has child aged 4 by then.

Tina

[Paul M]

1901

Scotts Buildings, Wellington Road, Wakefield

RG13 piece 4289 folio 48 page 47

Frank SWAIN / Head / M / 45 / Coal Miner / Notts, Cinder Hill
Ellen do / Wife / M / 30 / Yorks, Barnsley
Joseph W do / Son / S / 13 / Yorks, Wakefield
George do / Son / 5 / Yorks, Alverthorpe
Lilly do / Dau / 3 / Yorks, Alverthorpe
Maggie do / Dau / 6m / Yorks, Alverthorpe
Maggie ASHLEY / Boarder / S / 23 / Rag Sorter / Yorks, Monk Bretton

[tinabrown1953]

Thanks for that Paul

[Paul M]

1871 (not easy to read this page)

Butler's Hill, Hucknall, Notts.

RG10 piece 3491 folio 61 page 51 (Schedule #347)

Charlotte SWAIN / Head / Unmarried / 39 / Belper
William do / Son / 16 / Dudley
Frank do / Son / 15 / Cinderhill
Hannah do / Dau / 8 / Ripley[?]
Joseph do / Son / 3 / Hucknall
Absalom do / Son / 10[or 16?] months / Hucknall

(Definitely shows Charlotte as "Unm" - that's quite clear ...)

Paul

[fastfusion]

2 possibles...

there is a marriage in Derby  for 1st quarter March of 1853 to a William Fritchley or William Heath 7b509

which is sorta about the period charlotte would have married if born in 1832

anyway it would warrant further investigation as i might be clutching straws....

Belper DBY 1837 1974 Belper

theres one in september 1860 william swain  at belper  7b612   spouse missing in freebduk
 

[fastfusion]

7b509  was a charlotte swain.........  retaining maiden name  ?

[Manchester Rambler]

there is a marriage in Derby  for 1st quarter March of 1853 to a William Fritchley or William Heath 7b509

This Charlotte Swain married William Heath, and can be found with him on subsequent censuses up to 1891, so she can be ruled out.

theres one in september 1860 william swain  at belper  7b612   spouse missing in freebduk

William Swain married Alice Howarth.

[fastfusion]

thanks for discounting those two marriages manchester rambler... i will keep looking in the hope i find one for the chatterer...

 

[Manchester Rambler]

I think I've possibly found Charlotte with the two oldest children in 1861:

RG09/2434/45 /22
30 Holden Square, Greasley, Notts
Aaron CARY  Head  27  Coal Miner  b. Ripley, Derbyshire
Charlotte CARY  Wife  23  b. Belper, Derbyshire
William CARY  Son  3  b. Oldhill, Staffordshire
Francis CARY  Son  1  b. Greasley

Aaron is on the 1841 and 1851 censuses with his parents in Ripley, when the surname is given as KERRY, and his death registration is also under KERRY in 1880. 

However, I can't spot him in 1871, and I can't see a marriage to Charlotte... 

As Aaron didn't die until 1880, it looks as though he and Charlotte separated prior to 1871.

There are possible birth registrations for all the older children as KERRY, but Absolom's birth seems to be registered both under SWAIN and KELLEY.

Rambler