1861, 1871 census look ups for Samuel ELLIOTT and family please.

[F.H.]

Hello all.
Just wondered if someone could please look up a SAMUEL ELLIOTT and his family please. I have had some info but I would like to find all of his children.
Samuel was born in Swansea about 1831. He married Mary ROGERS in 1852 at St Paul, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire.
I have been told that they had 9 children, but I have only been able to find 7 so far, so I am hoping that the other two may be on the 1861 or 1871 census.
I understand they lived around Cwmamman in the 1860's
Many thanks,
F H

[heywood]

Hello,

you don't give the names of the ones you have 

However, in 1871 they have these children:
Thomas 6 yrs; Edward 6 yrs; Mary A 4 yrs; Robert 2 yrs and John 1 yr.
They are all quite young if they were married in 1852.

Hope this helps

heywood

[judyjay]

Hello, I am up to eight using the 1871 and 1881.
Thomas  born circa 1865, Edward circa 1865, Mary circa 1867, Robert c.1869, John c1870, Samuel c 1873, David c 1877, William circa 1879.
Looking at the spread of years the missing child could be either the firstborn or born between Samuel and David.
Haven't found the family on 1861 yet.
Regards
Judy

[heywood]

With regard to 1861, I can only see a Mary Elliot, 26 yrs born Llangennech living in Llanelly who is a widow.
There are no children with her.

[F.H.]

Hi.
Sorry, the names I have so far are,
Mary Ann
Robert
John
Samuel
David
William.C
Jane.
Thomas and Edward seem to be the missing ones. Were they twins? Did you see them on the 1861 census?
Regards,
F H

[heywood]

Thomas and Edward were born about 1865 and are on 1871 census.

Free BMD has births in December quarter 1864 for

Thomas Elliott    Llandilofawr 11a     619
Edward Elliott Llandilofawr 11a 618

[judyjay]

Hello again,
I still can't find them on the 1861 but I have found an Ancestry tree which gives a daughter Jane born in 1853 then there is a huge gap to Edward and Thomas in 1865. I would think there were more children born who did not survive.  What was Samuel's occupation on his marriage certificate?  Perhaps he was elsewhere in 1861.
J

[F.H.]

Hi ya.
I'm glad you mentioned Jane. I have her birth as 1852...... Thought i was going barmy.....
A friend got me this info some time ago on Jane and I would just wanted to "prove it".
I havent got a marriage cert and I seem to think he was a "milner"
F H

[z]

Hi Everyone

Have been looking for them for a while in 1861 and nothing yet - although I am beginning to wonder whether they are amongst the imcomplete schedules for Carmarthenshire Llandilofawr Llandebie - sorry not much help but would help to explain the disappearance.

Regards

Z