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Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« on: Friday 08 February 13 03:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi to all

Looking for any information what-so-ever on Dalrymple Dawson, especially, when and where he was born and the names of his parents. He was the master of the convict ship 'Aurora' which left Portsmith in July 1833 and arrived in Australia in November 1833. One of the convicts on his ship formed a relationship with Isabell Bissett Dawson and I am wondering if there is a family connection between the two Dawson's. Isabell's parents were David Dawson and Mary Grainey and they came from the Fife area of Scotland.

Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 February 13 09:02 GMT (UK) »
The master of the Aurora was a Dalrymple Dowson but in the papers and in transcriptions it sometimes appears as Dawson or Towson.

There is a family grave in Reigate, Surrey  http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&grave=71355&personid=147885. William Dalrymple Dowson was a shipowner and ship broker. The master of the Aurora in 1833 (and the Backwell in 1835) was probably one of his sons
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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 February 13 09:07 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 February 13 02:34 GMT (UK) »
ShaunJ

Thank you for your help.
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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 June 13 07:42 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this helps you, isabella eliza bissett dawson 1802-1863 daughter of captain david bisset dawson jnr did marry a convict "Daniel Marley", but was also married to someone else, she left n.s.w. australia to move to melbourne with two of her children with Daniel Marley.  Captain David Bisset Dawson Jnr was married to Mary Gainey.  Captain David Bisset Jnr parents were David Dawson Snr and Isabella Bissett.  David Dawson Snr parents were David Dawson 1 and mother unknown from my information.  Isabella Bissett married to David Dawson Snr parents were John Bissett and Isobel Nichole, which I have further heritage on her side.  Hope this helps?
Daniel Marley came on the ship the Aurora in 1833 and arrived 1834, the masters name of this ship from the document I have states Dawson.

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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 June 13 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi kasb

Thank you for that information. Do you have proof that Isabella married Daniel Marley - from my research I have not been able to find a registered marriage for them even though Isabella's death is registered under the name of Marley and they had a least two children. Also, do you have an exact date and place of birth for Isabella?

I would be very interested in any information you have on the Bissett family as my husband is a descendant of Isabella's daughter Mary Elizabeth Leitch. Isabella's first husband was James Leitch, son of John Leitch and Elizabeth Ann Aldise, but I have not found a date of marriage for them.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 June 13 04:57 BST (UK) »
Hi mixedup,

Great to hear from you.  Below is a list of a lineage from Isabella Eliza Bisset Dawson the daughter of Captain David Bisset Dawson Jnr.(1777-1859) from here our ancestory goes back together.  Enjoy!!!

Isabella Eliza Bisset Dawson (1802-1863) daughter Captain David Bisset Dawson Jnr
Captain David Bisset Dawson Jnr (1777-1859) son of Isabella Bissett
Isabella Bissett (1762-1777) daughter of Isobel Nichole
Isobel Nichole (1721- ?) daughter of Margaret Nuckle
Margaret Nuckle (1686- ?) daughter of Janet Black
Janet Black (1656-1683) daughter of Janet Margaret Watson
Janet Margaret Watson (1618-1624) daughter of Marjory Smetone
Marjory Smetone (1586- ?) daughter of isabell Cunningham
Isabell Cunningham (1554-1586) daughter of William, 6th Earl of Glencairn Cunningham
William, 6th Earl of Glencairn Cunningham (1532-1580) son of Alexander 5th Earl of Glencairn      Cunningham
Alexander 5th Earl of Glencairn Cunningham (1510-1574) son of William 4th Earl of Glencairn Cunningham
William 4th Earl of Glencairn Cunningham (1493-1548) son of Cuthbert, 3rd Earl of Glencairn Cunningham
Cutherbert, 3rd Earl of Glencairn Cunningham (1476-1541) son of Lady Christian Lindsay
Lady Christian Lindsay (1430-1495) daughter of Agnes Stewart, Lady Lindsay of Byres
Agnes Stewart, Lady Lindsay of Byres (1408-1496) daughter of Joan Lady Lorn Stewart
Joan Lady Lorn Stewart (1379-1439) daughter of Prince Robert Duke of Albany Stewart
Prince Robert Duke of Albany Stewart (1340-1420) son of Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland
Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland (1316-1390) son of Lady Marjorie, Princess of Scotland de Bruce
Lady Marjorie, Princess of Scotland de Bruce (1296-1316) daughter of Robert I King of Scotland the Bruce
Robert I King of Scotland (The) Bruce (1274-1329)
(His daughter Lady Marjorie - above - was from his marriage to his first wife isobel de mar from the mar tribe of scotland).

This takes you back of one line of lineage, as for Mary Gainey who was Isabella Bisset Dawson mother I have no more info on her side.

As I said before her fathers side goes back to David Dawson Snr (1727-1804) married isabella Bissett (1762-1777).  David Dawson Snr parents were David Dawson Ist wife unknown to me.

Isabella Bissett (1762-1777) parents were John Bissett and Isobel Nichole (see above) and then I only have to lineage from Isobel Nichole onwards.

I hope this helps you somewhat, it makes for interesting reading.

I do have a question, perhaps there was some gossip or stories handed down which may help me in finding out about Daniel Marley.  He was listed as having a "brown complexion" on one of the documents, and there was some mention somewhere along the way that we may have some Spanish heritage.  I was wondering if you had heard any stories outside of what we can find as facts.  It is just a thought!

Regards,

kasb

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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 June 13 05:25 BST (UK) »
Hi mixedup,

Also, I don't have proof of Isobell Eliza Dawsons marriage to Daniel Marley, although I did come across a register of them both Baptising their twins Hannah & Daniel Marley.  I'm not sure if they would have needed to be married in those days to do that in a church, but if so, that would mean they were married.  Could be something to look into.

Cheers,

kasb

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Re: Captain Dalrymple Dawson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 June 13 10:09 BST (UK) »
hi kasb

Thank you for all that interesting information - it will keep me going for a while as I look into it all. One thing - have you verified it all with certificates etc. or how did you get the information?

I don't think Isobella Bissett Dawson was married to Daniel Marley as her first husband was still alive at the time the twins were born, he did not die until 1860 although he could have been away at sea as he was a master mariner - could be the reason Isobella ran off with Daniel.

I know nothing of Daniel other than it is thought he was a convict. If this is correct he must appear in some court records in England where he would have been convicted and sentenced to transportation. Just another thing to add to the to do list.

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