Spencer and lester family

[harris122]

I am looking for more details on the Spencer family Josh Spencer was born in 1839 in Bilston Staffordshire and he was a grease merchant. He married Fanny Lester born 1844 and they had several children Marian 1877, Howard ( footballer), Charlotte b 1880, George b 1872, Kate b 1871. I know Fannys mother was called mary b 1819 and sister mary b 1843. They all lived together in Aston . any info would be wonderful xxx

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Not sure what you want exactly but had a quick delve.
Possible death Joseph H Spencer Sep 1913 Camberwell age 74 1d 767
Fanny seems to die between 1901 and 1911 and Joseph and the younger children move to Bournemouth.
Children Joseph E Spencer 1868-Mar 1950 Sutton Coldfield 9c 1111,Kate b 1870,George 1872,Frederick H 1874,Howard 1875-Mar 1940 Sutton Coldfield 6d 1220,Marian 1877,Charlotte 1879,and Maud Ethel born 1881.
1871 census Oxford St Bilston
George Spencer 30 m oil merchant on commission Bilston
Mary Lester sister W 52 Bilston
Lizzie niece 28 same
Sarah Bethel serv 21 Wolverhampton.
1861 58 High St Bilston
Mary Lester 43 beer house keeper Bilston
Mary E 19 Daughter
Fanny 18
Sophia Spencer 66 mother widow Bilston
Sarah 26 sister
George 29 brother broker Bilston.
In 1851 the Spencers are in church St and Sophia is a licenced vitualler.And in 1841 Church St Samuel Spencer 50 innkeeper y and Sophia 45 y.Sophia died Mar 1863 Wolverhampton 6b 408.
Meanwhile in 1851 the Lester's are still in the High Street and Mary Elizabeth 9,Fanny 8.Fanny baptised st Leonards 29.0.1842 d of John Tobias Lester and Mary, and Mary Elizabeth 4.8.1841.Marriage  ST Peters Wolverhampton 3.4.1839 John Tobias 25 malster s of Job Hickman Lester jappanner m by lic Mary Spencer 21 d of Samuel innkeeper.
Children Samuel and Sophia Spencer:- Anne Maria 16.6.1819,Harriot 16.5.1815,Mary 3.12.1816,Edward 191.11.1826,Samuel 22.12-28.12 1825,Joseph 9.7.1821,Thomas 26.8.1828,William14,8,1823,Thomas 28.11.1830 and Sarah 2.10.1834.
John Tobias Lester bapt Bilston 19.7.1813 s of Job and Elizabeth Lester.Others Daniel smith Lester 17.9.1815,Henry James 5.6.1819,Job 26.12.1811,Frances 9.11.1817,Sarah 14.12.1809,Mary 17.4.1808,William Leigh Lester 14.9.1828,Job Smith Lester 13.6.1826,Fanny 12.8.1821 and Elizabeth 10.2.1831.
Joseph Henry Spencer baptised Bilston 28.5.1839 s of Joseph and Charlotte Elizabeth Spencer.Other children Thomas 15.101.1842 , Frederick Paul 28.10.1845 and Herbert 20.5.1847.Marriage by lic to Charlotte Elizabeth Whitehead 7.4.1838 st Peter's Wolverhampton .Joseph 24 founder s of Thomas founder and Charlotte Elizabeth 21 d of John Bickerton Whitehead maltster.(baptised Bilston 7.1.1817 to John B. and Ann.Son William 5.3.1811)
1851 census Gravell Hill House Wombourne
Joseph Spencer 37 engineer and iron founder Bilston
Charlotte E 34 Bilston
Herbert 3 Bilston and 3 servants.
!841 has them in Church st Bilston with Joseph H age 2.
All for now
Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

Samuel Spencer married Sophia Cresswell 31.5.1814 Sedgley.
It looks like Samuel baptised 8.10.1791 to Joseph and Anne Spencer Bilston is the brother of Thomas 4.4.1779 father of Joseph born 2.5.1813.(mother Hannah)brassfounder,and Sophia 16.4.1815.
Others Joseph and Anne- Catherine 1.1.1784,Samuel 13.5.1787and 22.6.1789 and Sarah 15.4.1781.
Thomas seems to have gone on to marry a Joanna-Sarah Maria 24.8.1817,Thomas 3.8.1820.
Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Just a little more info on the Lester's
John Tobias Lester died Sep 1846 Wolverhampton 17 254 Admin 16.1.1895 London to Joseph  Henry Spencer £170 3s 10d .Former grant Feb 1847 Lichfield.Died 8.9.1846 jappanner
Father Job Hickmann Lester died Mar 1844 17 253 Wolverhampton.
1841 Lester St Bilston
Job Lester 55 jappanner y
Elizabeth 53 y
Fanny 20
Elizabeth 15
Job 15
Georgina 10 and 2 servants.
He was in the poll books 1837-1841 so obviously was a wealthy man ,might be worth looking for a will at Lichfield.
Spencers also quite well off Josh H sent to school in Brewood 1851.
1861 Bath RoaD wOLVERHAMPTON
Charlotte Spencer 44 wid Bilston
J.Henry 21 commission agent
Thomas 18 col factor
Herbert 13.
Will for Charlotte Elizabeth 18.1.1893/15.1.1897 £854 14 2d to Joseph Henry Spencer oil merchant.She died Highfield Road Edgbaston.
Joseph and Fanny are at 1871 Park road Aston,1891 23 Trinity Road Handsworth,then quite posh,1901 Moorfields Church Lane Handsworth.
They do seem to be quite a well off family.Fanny Spencer death West Bromwich (Handsworth was under that) Mar 1906 age 63 6b 477.
Will Joseph Spencer senior died 6.5.1858 ironfounder of Wolverhampton proved by Charlotte Elizabeth widow at principal register office <£1500.
It might be worth getting these wills for £6.
Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

Apprenticeship Joseph Spencer bucklemaker of Bilston for a James Atherton 1773 may be gt grandfather taking on an apprentice.
John Bickerton Whitehead married Nancy Poulson St Peter's Wolverhampton 9.6.1801 and died Bilston May 1834 age 63.Extra sons John Poulton Whitehead b 1804 Bridgenorth and Edward Bickerton whitehead 1895 Bridgenorth.
Ciderdrinker

[Gem Spencer]

Hi There,

Howard Spencer was my great, great, great, great Grandad. My Dad is John W V Spencer I would like to know if anyone can help me find the link or family tree please or has any information? I have never met my nan or Grandad  Please email me gems2219@yahoo.co.uk all I know is that Reenie boughf my Dad up that was his nan

[Tiny1970]

My 4th Great Grandparents are Samuel and Sophia.  Her parents were john creswell and Elizabeth Holland but I know nothing else so this was interesting to read.

Their daughter Mary was my 3rd Great Grandma, and her son John married Eliza Cooper.  not sure if anyone else has any different info

[G Mlx]

I am looking for more details on the Spencer family Josh Spencer was born in 1839 in Bilston Staffordshire and he was a grease merchant. He married Fanny Lester born 1844 and they had several children Marian 1877, Howard ( footballer), Charlotte b 1880, George b 1872, Kate b 1871. I know Fannys mother was called mary b 1819 and sister mary b 1843. They all lived together in Aston . any info would be wonderful xxx

I know of a Catherine Spencer born in this area circa 1807 and died in the Women's Hospital 29 Soho Square, London on the 18th June 1873 who had married Henry Pratt in Wolverhampton on the 2nd April 1833 and had issue, including my gt.grandfather John Pratt born circa 1844 in New York.

[DeeD1970]

Hi. I am looking for Samuel and Sophia
 Could u let me know where you found this info as I am struggling to find Samuels parents.