1851 Census for George Gray

[wentworth13]

Hi, Would someone look up the 1851 census for a George Gray.
On the 1841 his birthplace read Middlesex Reg Dist. St Matthew Bethnal  Green county Middlesex.
He was 25 years in 1841.
Not sure if this is the George Gray I am looking for but his wife was from there. She came out to
Australia in 1849 and she married George in 1853 in Adelaide South Australia. I am having difficulty in tracing him. Any help would be appreciated.
 

[jomcd967]

Hi Wentworth13,

Have you tried getting George's marriage certificate? This should tell you who his parents ere, place of birth, etc and would be better than just guessing at where he was from. I would post this on the south Australian, Australia board to see if anyone could do a lookup or try www.genealogysa.org.au, they have George's marriage in 1853 and offer a lookup service. Unless you are positive he came from Bethnal Green for some other reason than his wife came from there?

Cheers, Jo 

[jomcd967]

Would any of this be of interest?
geanologysa - 1853, George Gray married Mary Elizabeth Lowen
TROVE - South Australian Register - 12 Aug 1873
Gray - on the 20th July, at the Northern Territory, of fever and diarrhoea, George Gray, late of Adelaide, aged 60 years, a colonist of 33 years.
SA Register - 31 Dec 1887
Gray - On the 29th Dec, at the residence of her son in law(Mr Roffe Searcy), Nelson St, St Peters, Mary, relict of George Gray, aged 67 years. A colonist of 43 years, having arrived in the ship John in Feb 1840.
Bound for South Australia - John from London, arrived 5 Feb 1840
Gray, George and his wife Mary Ann (nee Marriage)/(Anna).

If this is your George then he won't be on the 1841 census

Jo

[wentworth13]

Hi Jo
Yes I have his marriage cert.  Father not named.  His wife did not name her father also.  Guess I will have to look further at the library to see what else I can find
Thanks for help
Pat

[jomcd967]

George Gray, full age, Bach, Brazier, of Bow, father George Gray, Brazier married Mary Ann Marriage, 19, spinster, of Bow, father Benjamin Marriage, labourer, 18 Sept 1837, St Mary Stratford Bow

Jo 

[wentworth13]

Hi Jo
That is very interesting.I will look into that further.  I have seen his wife's death cert and I also saw a death for a George in the NT.  I did think that was a possibility. Many many thanks for more ideas to think about.
Pat

[wentworth13]

I am a member of The Genealogy Society here in Adelaide. I will go over in a day or so and look at his death cert.  I will also look at her's again.  One of the certs I have looked at noted there was a change but that does not appear on the cert.  Will have to buy it.  I am sure she said wife of George
It is getting quite complicated.  But will soldier on. Have many more leads now.
Pat

[jomcd967]

Hi Pat, what age and occupations are the George & Mary Elizabeth on your 1853 marriage? The death notices above both state that George & Mary Ann came in 1840 on the John, as per the above shipping list, the death in 1887 is for Mary Ann Gray (which fits for Mary Ann Marriage on above shipping list and 1837 marriage), so are they two different couples?

Jo 

[wentworth13]

Hi Jo
I believe they are different couples.  My George Gray married Maria Elizabeth Lowen in 1853 in Adelaide.  His occupation was listed as a butcher.  No father was recorded for both. Which makes it hard. Maria Elizabeth was known as Elizabeth as she had a daughter in law called Maria. Her death was in 1878 and I have looked at that.  Died at West Terrace which was her usual address. She is buried in West Terrace Cemetery. Now for George.  No Idea.  I traced Maria E Lowen to Middlesex and she came out on the Florentia in 1849.  She was 24. So I was only having a guess about GEORGE.
I did find a George Gray and a William Gray came from Newcastle on the Robert??(Cannot find my piece of paper) I found it on Trove and one of the ships lists. SO will have to really look again and go into the State Library and look at their records.
I believe he died after her as her death cert said wife of George.
SO back to the drawing board.
Many thanks for your help.  It is good to have another person looking at it.
Cheers
Pat