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Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« on: Wednesday 20 February 13 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

My name is Sophie and I am trying to find any other relatives of Wisdom Smith & I know there are A LOT!

I am related to the Smith's through my Mother's side and Jemima Smith is my Great-Great Grandmother and Wisdom Smith is my Great-Great-Great Grandfather, which makes me 1/16th Romany gypsy.

My Mum lived in the quarry as a child and married my Dad in Trinity Church, Headington Quarry.

I would love to hear from any other relatives and see if we can tie up any loose ends.

Sophie x

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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome

Freebmd has 2 marriages in Oxford for his name

Marriages March qtr 1860   
Wisdom Smith to Priscilla Bagley Headington  3a 587 - this Wisdom was born in 1823 Short Hampton Oxfordshire

Marriages December qtr 1875 
Wisdom Smith to Harriet Tolley    Headington  3a 1109    - this Wisdom was born 1852 Charlton Oxfordshire and was the son of the above Wisdom.  Priscilla appears to be his second wife

I will post census details in a minute 
 
 
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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 22:15 GMT (UK) »
1861 census for Headington Quarry

Wisdom Smith 38 b Oxford Shorthampton
Priscilla 40 b Brackley Northants
Sampson   18 b White Crop Bucks
Ann S   17 b Oxford ?? Frankfoot
Patience   15 b Chesterton Oxf
Ocean   13 (female) b Barton Oxf
Lucretia 11 b Chalton
Wisdom 9 b Chalton
Mary A  4 b Headington Quarry
Jemima 1  ditto
RG9 Piece 890 Folio 51 Page 29
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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, Priscilla was his second wife & Jemima a subsequent child from this marriage.

My mum has done a lot of research into the Smith family & have traced it back to Thomas Smith in the 1760/1770's in Brailes, Northants.

As there were so many Smiths, thought it'd be interesting to see where the relatives had ended up.

My family lived in the quarry until the early 90's & then moved away.

Sophie


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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Priscilla was around a long time before they married so possibly wasn't a second wife

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3JY-VBW

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9SS-6JW

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J9SS-HPR
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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 April 14 00:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am a descendent of said Wisdom Smith and Priscilla Bagley through his son Wisdom married to Harriet Tolley. I have got quite a bit of research but would live to get in touch to put more puzzle pieces together.

Can't wait to hear from you.
Sarah x

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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 April 14 13:29 BST (UK) »
Those with an interest in the Headington Quarry Gypsies might be interested to know that Keith Chandler will be giving a talk on Saturday May 10th about the community who lived and worked in the area in the 19th and early 20th centuries and regularly provided music for feasts, festivals and the Headington Quarry Morris Dancers.

The event being held in Iffley, Oxfordshire OX4 4EJ is open to non-Members of RTFHS, but you'll need to book. Go to http://rtfhs.org.uk/ and select Events to find out more.
Gypsy DRAPERs, children of Billy and Mary - Ellen,Darnity,Spencer,Billy Jnr,Kisby,Ellick
Descendants of Fred and Esther (Garrett) WHITLOCK - Wavendon, Woburn Sands area
Descendants of George and Barbara (Willis) SUTTON - Earls Barton and Nether Heyford
BISSELL - Hanslope, New Bradwell, Bucks and Aston, Birmingham area
Lavinia DRAPER died 1840 Cranfield
Gypsies in the Bow Brickhill and Beds/Bucks border areas

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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 April 14 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hi my sons side (on his dads side) are the Headington Smiths. Masses of them lol. I have a big tree if you're interested. I was thinking of starting a Facebook page for the descendents of the Smiths, would anyone be interested? Im Romany gypsy from my own fathers side too, so we rokker the jib and go to the horse fairs.
Casaubon (Geneva, London), Daulinge, Berners, McMullen (Nottingham), Tabb (Leics), Mycock (Derbys & Staffs), Gilbert (Notts), Price (s Wales), Krilovs/similar, gypsy Roberts, gypsy Clark, Bexell (Sussex), gypsy Elliott, Raven, Neligan (Co Kerry), Rymer, Newton (Hull).

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Re: Looking for relatives of Wisdom Smith (Headington Quarry)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 December 15 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi, sorry it has taken me so long to reply .... no excuse, just busy with 5 kids!! I would be really grateful if we could swop whatever information we have on the Smiths. I can't wait to speak to you again.
Have a great Christmas  :)