Can anyone find these adult siblings in 1871 please?

[Marmalady]

That is interesting -- and certainly the same family!

I hadn't got Eliza before --but had attached the marriage with William John Weston to her elder sister Elizabeth. Have now found Elizabeth's death at the age of 2 and Eliza's birth.

I have that Eliza &William Weston emigrated to Australia in 1855, with their eldest 2 children William J & Fanny L. A third child Mary was born at sea.
On the 1851 census William is a Police Constable -- did he take up Schoolmastering in Australia?
I would be interested in what happened to Eliza in Australia

Eliza seems to be the only one of her siblings (1 boy, 7 girls in total) to have married.

Do you have Eliza's family further back or would you like me to send you the info I have?

My connection is through Eliza's uncle James Whitney (subject of another recent thread here : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=715218.0 )

[josey]

Pleased you found Eliza - and some descendants  . I love the way rootschat posts sometines surface again after years, especially with new information or descendants & rellies - shows how worthwhile it is having a post about a brick wall/hole in your records out there....

Did you ever find Thomas, Hannah/Ann, Rachel & Emma in 1871? I had a look this morning but couldn't see them...

[Marmalady]

No, still haven't found them in 1871

Somehow they must have evaded the enumerator -- or his writing was so bad that the transcription is unrecognisable!

[[Ray]]

Hi

HALS 1800 onwards . . . . .

* has the marriage TJW to Elizabeth Wright 14/Feb/1814

* also has refs to "James Whitney" although some obviously not yours

Unproven links mention another sibling of your group as "Amelia" first-born of TJW/EW
interesting therefore . . . . .
1861 Uxbridge Almshouse (Windsor Street?) RG9 768 111 p7
Louisa Wright    70 Unm Dressmaker Rickmansworth
Amelia Whitney 46 Unm Governess   Uxbridge

1851 Uxbridge Vine Street, HO107 1697 247 p3
Louisa Wright    60 Unm Head  Dressmaker                               Rickmansworth
Amelia Whitney 36 Unm Neice Author & Translator of French   Uxbridge
Maria Tucker     21 Unm Neice Dressmaker                               Uxbridge
(my spelling of "Tucker", NOT my spelling of "Neice" ) 



Ray

[Marmalady]

Thanks Ray, yes I had already got Amelia -- she is with her aunt on several censuses --and i have got a possible death for her in June 1861, Wandsworth

I also have the other siblings on most censuses (mostly together as a group but the occasional one elsewhere) - but they are all totally missing in 1871

[[Ray]]

Hiya

Who is this in 1841?

1841 Mortens Rents, Hillingdon, HO107 656 1 30 p10
Louisa Wright    50 Dressmaker                              N
Amelia Whitney 25 Governess                                Y
?? Whitney  15 DressMakers App (?)               Y
Maria Tucker     11  -                                               Y


The reason I followed this was in case they are staying with Louisa (you never know)

Colud Amelia be Louisa's daughter ?


Ray
 

[Marmalady]

The siblings & census returns i have are:

1 Amelia: bpt 19 Apr 1815 Uxbridge poss died June qtr 1861 Wandsworth
1841 census age 25 Governess in h/hold aunt Louisa Wright
1851 census age 36 Author & Translator of French in h/hold aunt Louisa Wright
1861 census age 46 Governess in h'hold aunt Louisa Wright

2 Thomas bpt 22 Apr 1817 Uxbridge died 1884 Fulham
1851 census age 34 Shoemaker unmarried. parents & 3 sisters in h/h Hammersmith
1861 census age 44 unmarried shoemaker no-one else in h/h Hammersmith
1881 census age 64 shoemaker unmarried living with 4 sisters Hammersmith

3 Elizabeth bpt 19 Aug 1819 Uxbridge buried 7 Nov 1821 Hillingdon

4 Mary 1824 - 1888
1851 census age 27 Needlewoman visiting married sister Eliza
1861 census age 37 dressmaker
1881 census age 57 dressmaker living with brother & sisters

5 Eliza bpt 1 Sept 1825 Holborn married William John Weston 11 Jan 1847 Westminster
1841 census age 15 dressmakers apprentice in h/h aunt Louisa Wright
1851 census age 25 Stepney
Emigrated to Australia 1855

6 Hannah / Ann born 1829 bpt 11 Jan 1835 Hillingdon died 1906 Fulham
1851 census age 22 authoress of poetry
1861 census age 32 authoress of poetry & prose
1881 census age 52 dressmaker living with brother & sisters
1891 census age 62 dressmaker
1901 census age 72 no occupation

7 Rachel bpt 11 Jan 1835 Hillingdon died 1905 Fulham
1851 census age 16 Shoebinder
1861 census age26 Shoebinder
1881 census age 46 Dressmaker living with brother & sisters
1891 census age 56 dressmaker
1901 census age 66 no occupation

8 Emma born 1838 adult bpt 7 Aug 1861
1851 census age 13 Scholar
1861 census age 23 Historical & Portrait Painter
1881 census age 40 Artist & Painter living with brother & sisters
1891 census age 53 Portrait painter
1901 census age 63 Portrait painter

[Marmalady]

Who is this in 1841?

?? Whitney  15 DressMakers App (?)               Y

I think it is Eliza

If you look carefully the tail of the z overlaps the M of Maria in the line below


Could Amelia be Louisa's daughter ?

No -- I have her bpt to Thomas & Elizabeth
Just a case of maiden aunt taking her nieces under her wing

[westontree]

Wow that was fast! Thank you!
I have very little information on the Whitneys. Although I have a lot more now.

Here is everything I know about Eliza & John's life in Australia.

Eliza and John arrived in Sydney aboard The Bangalore in Jan 1855
They spent a few years here (Thomas Whitney Weston born 3/4/1857) before John was transferred to a country town "Cassilis" (which I pass a few times a year visiting friends) as a Mounted Policeman. He resigned from the police 31/5/1862 and became a schoolteacher again and took on the mail run. They moved from town to town as the schools closed due to lack of funding/students. Felix Francis Weston born 16/2/1866
Ernest Henry Weston born 25/5/1868 in Cobbera where John became a bookkeeper for a time before he & Eliza took over The Royal Hotel.
It was hear that Eliza died in an accident Aug 1881. She was said to have been driving a horse and cart when flash flooding occurred and she was washed into the Talbagar River.
John's sister Fanny (in England) in letters had always talked about Eliza with great affection, stating that she was "a dear and devoted mother" and that she wished she had a mother like her. (John & Fanny did not know who their parents were & were raised by guardians)
Fanny also wrote to John that he "has much to be thankful for".
These are excerts from letters that I don't possess unfortunately. I may be able to get hold of the transcripts if you want them.

John continued his life travelling between & living with their children, working where possible as a bookkeeper until his death in Gilgandra 3/11/1910.
Some of that time approx. 1898-1900 was in Moree with Alfred Charles. This is where I eventually (74 years later) come in.

I hope this covers some of the missing element of the Whitneys. I will try to get together the few photos that I know of and pass them on soon.

I would love to see anything you have on this family.