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Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« on: Monday 11 March 13 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Any suggestions on where to proceed with my search would be greatly appreciated. I've traced my ancestry back to a "farmer" named Samuel Hunt and his wife Lucy Baldry. In 1820 they somehow found the money to take their six children to New York (I would like to know how) but before that I am stuck.
I know Samuel Hunt (possibly born 1788), was a farmer according to a notation on the ship's list but the children's christening records seem to be all over Suffolk so I'm guessing he was really an agricultural labourer. Wife Lucy (born 1781) hailed from Brundish according to her son George's christening notation in Dennington. Lucy Baldry's parents seem to be Simon and Elizabeth Baldry based on a Brundish christening record. Eldest son George Hunt was born about 1803 and was christened in Dennington in 1805. I can't find christening records for sons Henry (born about 1807) or James (born about 1812) but another relative found daughter Clarissa's (1814) christening record in Westleton. Jeremyre (1817) and Charlotte (1819) were christened in Tannington.
Any ideas as to where to find out more about this family? Any ideas why they seem to have traveled around so much? I have an uneasy feeling that a parish may have sponsored them to push them off to America and be rid of them. Just not sure where to look from here.

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Re: Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 March 13 00:07 GMT (UK) »
this is the extracted details of available material for

a) Dennington Suffolk >

Dennington St Mary (Baptisms 1571-1837-PR; Baptisms 1813-1900-SBI; Marriages 1571-1830-Boyd's; Burials 1571-1900-NBI/SUI)

which apparently did not reach the IGI.

b)Tannington Suffolk>

Tannington St Ethelbert (Baptisms 1539-1884-Modern Transcript; Baptisms 1539-1660, 1839-1873-IGI; Baptisms 1813-1901-SBI; Marriages 1539-1884-Modern Transcript; Marriages 1539-1754-Boyd's; Burials 1539-1884-Modern Transcript; Burials 1539-1902-NBI; Burials 1539-1902-SUI)

c) Bruntish Suffolk>

Brundish St Lawrence (Baptisms 1562-1885-PR; 1562-1785, 1839-1873-IGI; Baptisms 1813-1901-SBI; Marriages 1562-1885-PR; Marriages 1563-1749 -IGI; Burials 1562-1885-PR; Baptisms 1562-1765, 1785-1812-Modern Transcript; Marriages 1563-1749, 1759-1812-Modern Transcript; Marriages 1563-1749-Boyd's; Burials 1563-1812-Modern Transcript; Burials 1563-1900-NBI; Burials 1563-1683, 1682-1900-SUI)

Code:

NBI = National Burial Index 3
SBI = Suffolk Family History Society Baptisms Index (as of May 2011)
SUI = Suffolk Family History Society Burials Index (2009-Release 14)
 BIVR = British Isles Vital Records Index (LDS-2nd ed.)
SMI = Suffolk Family History Society Marriages Index


So this information is extracted from one of the members of the Suffolk Family History Folk,

and I would suggest strongly becoming a member of their affiliate.   However , they may charge u for on the ground searching.... so I hope u are local or can access their facility.....   someone in rootschat maybe on the ground there.... BUT, there is definetly material available to get furthering parish evidences.

So I hope that info is of assistance....

As for finding the money to go to the Americas in 1820....   well, England wasnt in a very good state affairs financially so yes it would have been difficult to do such unless they had saved or sold everything they owned.  He may have had a benefactor in the US who gave him a job....  who knows....

 :)

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Re: Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 March 13 07:26 GMT (UK) »
The only 2 that appear on the Suffolk Bpt Index Hoxne are
16 Feb 1817 Jerez HUNT son of Samuel & Lucy, Tannington St Ethelbert (Fath Occ Labourer)
06 Dec 1818 Charlotte HUNT daug of Samuel & Lucy  (ditto)

Simon HUNT married Lucy BALDRY 24 Mar 1805 Tannington, St Ethelbert (SMI).

There are no bpts on the SBI Hoxne with the mother listed as Lucy Baldry. You say George was born c1803.

I found one entry on the Suffolk Burial Index that puts them as also living in Wenhaston.
John HUNT age 6 months son of Samuel & Lucy (late Baldry) buried 29 Jul 1811 Wenhaston, St Peter.

Lucy BALDRY bpt 5 Dec 1781 Brundish parents Simon Baldry & Elizth (source familysearch.org)
Elizabeth BALDRY of Wilby (wife of Simon) buried 17 Feb 1810 age 72, Ubbeston, St Peter.
Simon BALDRY of Wilby buried 15 May 1811 age 68, Ubbeston St Peter

Ubbeston burials include a Simon BALDRY buried 22 Nov 1739 & a Joanna BALDRY wi of Simon buried 17 Dec 1731.

Good luck
K

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Re: Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 March 13 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for these responses! Living in Seattle it can be challenging to get the information.

I should also add to this that I know, from Samuel Hunt's son Henry's obituary in Pennsylvania, that he was uneducated when his family came to America so I'm assuming none of the family had any schooling.


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Re: Baldry/Hunt - 1800
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 November 16 10:49 GMT (UK) »
I am aware that prior to the introduction of 1834 Poor Law Amendment Act that some parishes within the Hoxne Poor Law area organized (at a cost to the "home" parish) for the "removal of the indigent poor" to such places as Australia & Canada. I suspect that the Board of Guardians (maybe with some prodding from the "squire" and or the clergy) asked for volunteers! I think from memory that Stradbroke certainly drew up such a list around c1828.

In the early 19th century Gravesend (at the mouth of the Thames) was one of the main ports involved with emigration in southern England. I am aware  that small ships left Woodbridge (River Deben) & Ipswich (River Orwell) to ferry passengers to Gravesend (sometimes via Felixstowe)

In 1820 the journey from Gravesend to the eastern seaboard of America or Canada usually took around 12 weeks.
You may wish to go to these web sites for further reading:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/emigration/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_immigration_to_the_United_States#Immigration_1790_to_1849

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SFK#Emigration
(Where you will find books written by Susan Burney regarding land owners and farmers in Lothingland District)

The best source should be the Suffolk Record Office at http://www.suffolkarchives.co.uk/

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Re: Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 November 16 17:14 GMT (UK) »
(I think you might know this already  ;D)

But, taken from Brundish parish register
Lucy d/o Simon Baldry and Elizabeth his wife was baptised 5th December 1781
Also
Mary baptised 24th June 1779

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Re: Stuck in agricultural Suffolk around 1800
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 November 16 03:02 GMT (UK) »
I had found that but thank you for pointing it out in case I hadn't. Every bit helps!