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Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« on: Wednesday 20 March 13 06:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I’m trying to find some information on the Elder family.

What I have so far :

1.  Andrew Elder b. about 1896, aged 31 years when married Evelyn Morrison b. 20/10/1902, aged 24 years,  in Edinburgh on 19/08/1927. They had one child in Edinburgh, before Evelyn died on 04/08/1930 in Edinburgh. This child is still alive, so details removed by moderator in line with Rootschat policy of not discussing living relatives.

2.  At the time of his marriage to Evelyn, Andrew was living at Sunny Bank Cottage, Lower London Road, Edinburgh.

3.  From their marriage record, the father of Andrew is George Elder, a cooper, and the mother is possibly a “Janet Smith” – hard to decipher the faded writing.

4. George may have had a brother James and a sister Mary.

5. The town name Prestonpans, east of Edinburgh may be a link.

6. After Evelyn died, Andrew went on to marry a Mary Wanless and had a son. Later he married an Isabella surname unknown. Andrew Snr died about 1976.

Is the someone who may be able to help me with any information about Andrew Elder and his family/his mother’s family – parents, grandparents, etc?

Thanking  you in advance.

Sandi

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandi ,

Scotlandspeople has a marriage George Elder / Janet Smith 1895 Dalkeith Midlothian

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Andrew Elder b.24/6/1896, at Wardlaws Close, Dalkeith, Midlothianson of George Elder, Journeyman Cooper and Janet formerly Smith.

George Elder, Cooper 28  married Janet Smith 20  20/12/1895 The Manse, Dalkeith - George's parents George Elder, Cooper and Mary formerly Muirhead.   Janet's parents William Smith, Soft Goods Hawker (deceased) and Janet formerly Stewart (deceased).    Witnesses were Maggie Dow and Elizabeth Gray.

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 10:31 GMT (UK) »
I only have access to transcripts of Scottish Census - can't find George 1891 or 1901 but in 1881:

8 Prospect Terrace, St. Andrews, Edinburgh

George Elder   41    Cooper      b. Burntisland, Fife
Mary Elder      38                    b. Falkirk, Stirling
William Elder   17                         ditto
John Elder     15                     b. St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh
George Elder  13                           ditto
James Elder    6                      b. Falkirk, Stirling
Alexander Elder  3                        ditto

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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annette  :)

From what you have found this looks a likely marriage -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYW3-H3X

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that seems to be the one.

Familysearch also shows George's baptism:

George Elder b.11/9/1839, bp.22/9/1839 Burntisland, Fife, son of William Elder and Margaret Blyth.

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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Looking at SP there is a death for Janet Elder(other surname Smith) 1946 Midlothian , born c1872

Wonder if this is Janet ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQSS-8FF

1881 Amos Close Dalkeith Edinburgh
William Smith 40 hawker b. Ireland
Janet Smith 39 wife b. Newbattle Edinburgh
Janet Smith 9 daur b. Dalkeith Edinburgh
Margaret Smith 4 daur b. Dalkeith Edinburgh
William Smith 11m b. Dalkeith Edinburgh

Marriage ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYMS-5PD

Birth ?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTT6-568

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 11:55 GMT (UK) »
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY9F-Q4M

1851 Newbattle Midlothian
James Stewart 60 labourer b. Cranston Midlothian
Beatrice Stewart 47 wife b. Channelkirk Berwickshire
Ann Stewart 15 dau b. Edinburgh
James Stewart 13 son b. Edinburgh
Janet Stewart 9 dau b. Cockpen Midlothian

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Re: Elder family from Edinburgh, and possibly Prestonpans east of Edinburgh
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much everyone for your contributions re the ELDER family.

It now gives me lots of information that I can pass onto the living relative of Andrew Elder and Evelyn (nee Morrison). 

Much appreciated.

Sandi