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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 April 13 20:53 BST (UK) »
There's a baptism in Holywell on 10 Feb 1839 for Amelia Davies, daughter of Peter, shoemaker, and Anne.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 April 13 20:55 BST (UK) »
And Edward, 26 Feb 1837, same parents details.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 April 13 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Deirdre

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Was Ann's maiden name Davies?


I had asked that myself at reply#7 having see the same IGI entry you quoted
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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 April 13 21:12 BST (UK) »
...followed by Sarah Elizabeth, 10 June 1842 (abode: Bagillt St, Holywell) and Ann, 1 April 1849 (Bagillt St).

Didn't find John or Peter...
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....


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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 April 13 21:14 BST (UK) »
I had asked that myself at reply#7 having see the same IGI entry you quoted

Sorry Carole, mine are taking ages to post...
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 April 13 21:31 BST (UK) »
If this is the right Anne, though John originally suggested she was born in 1815, there's a baptism in Mold of Anne Ithel, 27 June 1813, parents David and Barbara of Bistree, David a farmer....
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 April 13 22:43 BST (UK) »
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Peter Davies (shoemaker, b. Holywell, 1810) and Ann Davies (b. Mold Flint, 1815)

Was Davies Ann's maiden name as well as her married name?

Yes, sorry about that, Carole. I do not know Ann's maiden name.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 20 April 13 22:49 BST (UK) »
In which case the only marriage online is the one shown by Deidre and found on Family Search

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCR5-WS3

It's difficult to say whether it is the correct marriage so I would recommend buying a copy of one of their childrens birth certs to get Ann's maiden name

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Re: Peter Davies - shoemaker, Holywell, 1810-82.
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 April 13 22:55 BST (UK) »
If this is the right Anne, though John originally suggested she was born in 1815, there's a baptism in Mold of Anne Ithel, 27 June 1813, parents David and Barbara of Bistree, David a farmer....

Curiously, the 1841 for Bagilt Street, Holywell shows Ann born out of county but the 1851 for Bagilt Assist, Holywell gives her birthplace as Mold, Flintshire. In 1841, she is 25 and in 1851 she is 36.

I guess the Peter Davies-Ann Ithel marriage is in line with the birth sequence and dates of Peter and Ann's children - but Ann's 1813 birthdate seems a bit of a stretch + Ann's mother's name of Barbara does not appear in Peter and Ann' s family.

Of course, iM willing to be persuaded.

Many thanks,Carole and Deidre. Yes, will do, Carole. Will get a birth cert. thanks, again.

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John
Owens-Swansea/Wallasey/Garston,L’pool
Jones-Erbistock/Widnes
Allen-Tetsworth/Hoole/Runcorn/St.Helens/Iowa/Kansas/Nebraska
Yieveley/Yevily/Everley/Heviley-Little Ness,Salop/Oldbury/St Helens/Garston,L'pool
Davies-Holywell,Garston,L'pool
Ithel-Bagilt,Mold
Fletcher-Rainhill/Widnes
Hughes-Marchwiel,Bangor-Is-Coed,Denbs
Thomas-Oswestry, Salop/Liverpool
Cole-Cliffe Peppard/Lyneham, Wilts
Frawley-Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Conway-Coolanoran,Co.Limerick
Dinneen-Ballingarry,Co. Limerick