Just to keep it straight in
my head
......
G1) John HEATLIE m Betsy KNOX, =
G2) Jane HEATLIE b abt 1809 m Alexander DUNCAN, =
G3) 1) Janet Knox DUNCAN 1830-1905, m 1852: Samuel INGLIS
2) Margaret DUNCAN
3) Walter Davidson DUNCAN m Margaret Marcshall 1, m Margaret O Johnson/Stewart
I'd bet Alexander Duncan INGLIS was the informant for Janet's 1905 death? He died Kingscte (Yankilla district) in SA 1919 but the Newspaper report of his death said he was late of Broken Hill - so maybe Janet had gone to live with him in her older age? Very possibly, Alexander D. (or whoever did inform on Janet's death) has mixed up the generations - naming her grandfather John as her father, instead of correctly, her father Alexander.
When Janet married Samuel INGLIS (who was born in Berwickshire) it was in Midlothian 1852, and I wondered why there…. tradition is to marry in the parish of the bride, and from all acounts that appeared to be St Boswells /Ancrum area of Roxb. I wondered if Samuel was based in Midlothian - Banns can be called in the differing Parishes of bride & groom and oft-times there are what looks like 2 marriages on the IGI - except one is Banns (where the marriage was NOT formalised and is the Grooms Parish), and the other - the slightly later dated one - is when the marriage was added to the Banns and is the Bride's parish.
Anyway! A bit of lateral digging about and the place of marriage makes sense to me after working out the following:
A sibling for Jane HEATLIE DUNCAN:
BIRTH: Williiam HATLIE Chr 23 Dec 1803, Lilliesleaf
Parents: John HATLIE & Betty KNOX
MARRIAGE of that sibling:
William HEATLIE & Elizabeth BRICE, 23 May 1834, St Boswells.
BIRTH to that marriage: William Knox HAITLIE b 14 Oct 1841, chr 13 Dec 1841, Cockpen Midlothian
Parents: William HAITLIE & Elizabeth BRYCE
Census 1841: Kirkhill, Cockpen, Midlothian
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.plWilliam HEATTIE 35, Ag Lab - Y
Elizabeth HEATTIE 35 - N
John HEATTIE 3 - N
Elizabeth KNOX 70 - N
Elizabeth DUNCAN 12 - N
Census 1851: House at Trotters Bridge, Cockpen, Midlthian
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.plHead: William HEATLY 45, Ag Lab, b Ancrum, Roxb.
Wife: Elizabeth HEATLY 45, b Carstairs, Lanarkshire
Son: John HEATLY 13, b Ancrum (abt 1838)
Son: William K HEATLY 9, b Cockpen
Mother-In-Law: Mary CHRISTIE** 75, b Libberton, Lanarkshire
Visitor: Elizabeth STARK 5, b Borthwick, Midlothian
Note: ** we have Elizabeth as BRYCE maiden name, not CHRISTIE - and it will definitely be her maiden name that is being used in the 1834 Marriage & 1841 birth of son WK (even if she was married previously and a widow). Possibilities are that:
1) Wife Elizabeth in 1851 is a 2nd wife, same forename (and stepmother the boys)
and 2) Mary CHRISTIE is therefore the mother of wife2
or, 3) Mary CHRISTIE is the mother of the wife who is Elizabeth BRYCE - and Mary is
doing what was very common is Scotland, using her maiden name. It was common
practice with widows and and also, perhaps to a lesser extent, with married women,
or 4) Mother-in-law- means Step-Mother, (Step relationships often termed as "-in law") and
therefore she could be William's mother (but from the 1841, we know this is not likely
in this case)
Personally I plump for 3). And I think in the 1841 Census, that is exactly what Elizabeth KNOX is doing too - ie:I'd say she is Betsy KNOX HEATLIE, widow of John HEATLIE, mother of William and of your Janet HEATLIE DUNCAN.
The Scottish naming pattern is great! Always exceptions to a rule of course, but it was a stronly adhered to rule. It did lessen over time and/or if families moved away from Scotland, especially to the States, they often weakened or completely departed from the pattern earlier than may have happened had they stayed in Scotland.
AMBLY