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Basil Lubbock- The Blackwall Frigates
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 20 March 16 23:44 GMT (UK) »
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Joseph Somes was one of the promoters of Lloyd's
Register. In his old age he was partnered by his sons,
and the firm at his death disguised itself under the name
of the Merchant Shipping Company.

T. & W. Smith.

In the history of the Calcutta and Madras
passenger trade, T. & W. Smith, of Newcastle, rank on
an equality with Green aud Wigram.

The firm was founded as far back as the beginning
of the nineteenth century by Thomas Smith, one of
the Smiths, of Togstone, in Northumberland, who,
having served an apprenticeship with a Newcastle
ropemaker, eventually, like George Green at Blackwall,
married his master's daughter and succeeded to his
business. This example of the good apprentice had
two sons, Thomas, born in 1783, and William, born in
1787. The elder joined his father as a ropemaker,
whilst the youngest was apprenticed to William Rowe,
at that time the largest shipbuilder on the Tyne.

In 1808, the year William Smith completed his
apprenticeship, Rowe launched the largest ship ever
built on the Tyne— H.M.S. Bucephalus, a 32 -gun
frigate, measuring 970 tons.

Two years later old Thomas Smith bought Rowe's
business and, taking his two sons into partnership,
founded the shipbuilding firm of Smith & Sons, though
he still continued the ropemaking business with his
eldest son.

The Smiths had not been long in the business before
they turned their attention to the bu'.lding of Indiamen,
at that time almost the monopoly of the Blackwall
Yard. Curiously enough, their first Indiaman was the
Duke of Roxburgh, of 417 tons burthen, built to the
order of their rivals, Green & VVigram.

She was followed by the George Green, also to the
order of the famous Blackwall firm and launched on
Boxing Day, 26th December, 1829. This ship, accord-
ing to a contemporary account, was considered the finest
passenger-carrying merchantman ever built on the Tyne
at that date and the equal of any London-built ship.
She measured 568 tons burthen on a length of 135 feet,
was "frigate -built" and "fitted up with much elegance
for the carrying of passengers." Her life, however,
was a short one, as she was lost on her way to
London from the Tyne. Smith's next Indiamen
was the Duke of Northumberland, of 600 tons burthen,
launched 28th February, 1831. It was soon after this,
however, that the Newcastle firm commenced running
ships of their own to Madras and Calcutta in competition
with Green and Wigram.

Basil Lubbock - The Blackwall Frigates

(1876–1944) married (1912) Dorothy Mary Thynne née Warner (d.1944). Educated at Eton College, he went to Canada in the gold rush in 1897, and came home round Cape Horn as an ordinary seaman. This was the experience which informed such fiction as Jack Derringer: A Tale of Deep Water (1906), set on a ‘Yankee hell-ship’ with much unconvincing dialect. The first hundred pages or so read like an essay about life at sea; then Lubbock remembers that it is a novel and adds a villain and a heroine. In the second part the hero falls overboard and has some adventures in the company of a cowboy before settling down with his pure woman. Deep Sea Warriors (1909) is similar. Lubbock later fought in the Boer War and the First World War, in which he won the MC, and published a number of non-fictional works about maritime history. He was a keen yachtsman. The writer Percy Lubbock (1879–1965) was his first cousin.

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 03 April 16 16:05 BST (UK) »
Margaret Collingwood-sister of the prosecutor**

Q. If these persons were of that character, what made you go there?
Elizabeth Tod. I was but a child when he lodged at my father's house.
Jury. We should be glad to know what Mrs. Collingwood's husband is?
Collingwood. My husband is master of a Guinea-man .
Jury. Where do you live?
Collingwood. In Queen's-Square, Ratcliff-Highway .
Jury. Why was it improper for him to come to your house?
Collingwood. I thought it improper.
Jury. For what reason.
Collingwood. Why then, Gentlemen of the Jury, I will tell you. My husband has been gone these six years, trading on the coast of Guinea; and he being gone so long I was forced to take a lodging, and take in plain work, and go out to ironing. As to my sister, she lives in a very creditable manner, I do assure you.

Guilty - sentenced to transportation
.
** - the prosecutor in those times was the victim giving evidence against the prisoner charged.


http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17480526-18-person216&div=t17480526-18#highlight

Margaret Collingwood
- husband a master mariner(Guinea coast), resided at Queens Sq, Ratcliffe Highway,  leading off Farthing Fields. Highly probable that this is the mother of (Edward?)the Sawyer, b 1737 ? and apprenticed (about 1750 aged 13yrs -1757)?

John the Guinea-man was most certainly master of a 'slave-trader'. His wife Margaret said at the OLD BAILEY...."He has been gone these past six years and i have been forced to take in 'ironing and plain work'. If he died at sea (or soon after his return) his son Edward would have qualified for an apprenticeship from either his father's legacy or Mrs Wiseman's Bequest (will) to be son of a deceased shipwright or master mariner.


04 Jan 1737   Christened    John COLLINGWOOD son of John & Margaret.   Stepney, St. Dunstan         1736/37 age 28 days, father ships' fitter and upholsterer of Ratcliffe
Ships' outfitters were usually master tradesmen skilled in all aspects of of ship's fittings and were often skilled as shipwrights, sailmakers, etc. These skills were often required before a mariner could manage a ship as 'Master' or Master Mariner.

16 Dec 1757    Edward John COLLINGWOOD   Woolwich Yard KEN    TNA   Foreman's apprentice to John Puckley of Woolwich yard; duty 9s paid @ 6d on £18/-/- on 24 Dec 1757 

Oct 1764   Married    Edward COLLINGWOOD husband of Elizabeth POINTER   Limehouse, St. Anne     

Edward John's children......

15 Jan 1773   Christened    John COLLINGWOOD son of Edward & Elizabeth.   Stepney, St. Dunstan         age 2 days, father a sawyer of Poplar >>>>died in infancy.......

.....01 Aug 1773   Buried    John COLLINGWOOD   Stepney, St. Dunstan  of Poplar, buried at Ratcliffe? infant aged 9months?
 
17 Jul 1774   Christened    Elizabeth Mary COLLINGWOOD daughter of Edward & Elizabeth   Stepney, St. Dunstan       age 28 days, father a sawyer of Poplar

18 Aug 1776   Christened    John Edward COLLINGWOOD son of John Edward & Elizabeth.   Stepney, St. Dunstan     age 13 days, father a sawyer of Poplar
                          (John Edward the Ropemaker 1776 - 1821 age 45yrs)
 
John the ropemaker's children....

01 Jul 1804   Christened    John COLLINGWOOD son of John & Elizabeth   Stepney, St Dunstan MDX                                                                             father a ropemaker of Poplar
 
01 Oct 1806   Christened   Mary COLLINGWOOD dau of John & Elizabeth   Stepney, Saint Dunstan MDX     

05 Mar 1809   Christened    George Edward COLLINGWOOD son of John & Elizabeth   Stepney, St. Dunstan                      born 3 Jan 1809, father a ropemaker of Poplar

12 Feb 1815   Christened    James William COLLINGWOOD son of John Edward & Elizabeth   Limehouse, St. Anne            born 18 Jan 1815, father a ropemaker of Limehouse

05 Aug 1817   Christened    EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD son of John Edward & Elizabeth   Limehouse, St. Anne         born 5 Jul 1817, father a ropemaker of Limehouse 

Edward Henry Collingwood; born 5 July 1817, christened at St. Anne, Limehouse, MDX.

He married 3 March 1840 at Poplar, MDX Ann Merritt.
  Children:   1842:   Edward Robert Collingwood
1843:   Frederick Henry Collingwood ...1846 -  Alfred Daniel Collingwood
1849:   Sarah Ann Collingwood  .......1853 -  James Thomas Collingwood

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #74 on: Monday 02 May 16 23:24 BST (UK) »
Highway robbery in Mile End read this account of George Collingwood's involvement. You can forward to all other cases involving the Collingwoods

 {Jane Muscoe, married John Collingwood in 1714 in Barking, Essex. was a  *victualler in Ratcliffe, St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England when he died.
 His widow, Jane Collingwood, died in St. Ann's in Soho in the 1740's.

John Collingwood  died in Ratcliffe, about 1727 St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England. In his will, he left his wife, Jane ( Muscoe ) Collingwood, property. His siblings mentioned in the will were Elizabeth Collingwood, Sarah Parker, William Collingwood, and GEORGE COLLINGWOOD. His will mentions a home or property in *Surrey, England. After her death, it was left to John Collingwood's sister, Sarah Parker.
*Surrey in those days could have been just across the Thames at Woolwich or Deptford. Our connection to Woolwich and Edward the Sawyer(NEPHEW of George and William) stems from George's father John and Jane (Muscoe)Collingwood
*Victuallers in Ratcliffe in the 18th century were  often  retired master mariners or  crafted seaman that had made enough money to safeguard their retirement as early as 45yrs  Spending twenty to thirty years on ships it was one of the trades they could easily turn their hand to. Some married into trades owned by widows }

Browse - Central Criminal Court
http://goo.gl/YhA7VR


http://goo.gl/IXt55V
read full account

Offence: Violent Theft > highway robbery: Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
Related Material: Ordinary's Account, 19th December 1733
+ This is not that Jack-the-Hatter who was convicted of several Felonies in September last.
The Prisoners pray'd the Witnesses might be examin'd a-part, which the Court granted.
Samuel Maxwell . On Thursday, November 22, about five in the Evening I went with my Master, Mr. Wilmot, to the Globe at Mile-End; I expected to meet a Man with whom I had some Business to do, but he not coming, I told my Master, I thought there would be no Occasion for me to stay. My Master telling me I might do as I would, I concluded to go, but having received some Money at Stepney, I thought it would not be safe for me to venture over the Fields with it alone, and so I left 26 l. with him, and came away about six a Clock; but recollecting that I still had £7-10 s. in Moidores and Silver, I put it into my Side-pocket for the better Security. Coming into White-horse-lane I was met by three Men, one of them, which I think was Baxter, pass'd me, and bid me good Night, but presently turn'd back again, when one of the others, in a red Coat, with a thick short Stick in his left Hand and a Pistol in his right, bid me deliver, and swore he had seen me put Money in my left Side-pocket; I gave him the Silver, but not the Moidores; then he demanded my Watch, I told him it was a Family-Watch, and I hop'd he would not take it from me. Why then, says he, you may keep it; go forward, and say you are well us'd. So we parted, and I return'd another Way to my Master at the Globe, and told him and Mr. Collingwood, who was with him, what had happen'd. I staid with them there about three or four Hours, and then we all three came away together. We took Links with us, and coming to the same Place where I had been robb'd, we saw two Men running towards us; For God's sake, says one of them, have a Care, Gentlemen, we are frighted out of our Wits; we met a wild Bull, and thought the Devil was coming for us. As they look'd like loose Fellows, Mr. Collingwood ask'd them if there had not been a Robbery there that Night? They said, they had not heard of any. I thought I knew them again, and taking hold of one of them, whose Name is Macdonald, I told him he was the Man that robb'd me. The other was Baxter, and him my Master and Mr. Collingwood took Care of. We carry'd them to the Sun Tavern at Stepney, where we search'd them, and found a large Fowl upon one, and two Chickens upon t'other. We provided them with separate Lodgings for that Night,

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #75 on: Monday 02 May 16 23:39 BST (UK) »
correction to previous post should have read George's BROTHER (not  *father sorry).

*Surrey in those days could have been just across the Thames at Woolwich or Deptford. Our connection to Woolwich and Edward the Sawyer(NEPHEW of John,George and William) stems from George's BROTHER* John and (Jane MuscoeCollingwood)


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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #77 on: Sunday 12 June 16 23:22 BST (UK) »
 Sarah Todd , widow , was indicted for stealing one chesnut coloured gelding, value £4. the property of William Collingwood , Jan. 10 1755

http://goo.gl/PvECkt

William Collingwood . On Friday the 3d of this instant I had a chesnut-coloured gelding in keeping, at William Finkel's, a farmer, at Charlton , in Kent; I saw him on that day, between two and three in the afternoon in the yard; he was missing the next morning; I came to see for him in Smithfield market on the 10th, there I saw a man on his back; Josiah Whiting was with me, he went to the man, and asked him if he would sell that horse, and how much he would have for him. He asked him 3 l. 10 s. or 3 l. I know not which. He asked him how long he had had him? The man said, two years. He next asked him where he brought him from? The man said, from Carmarthenshire in Wales. I took hold of the rider, and pulled him off, and said, this horse was mine this day se'nnight, betwixt two and three in the afternoon. Then came Edward Jones , and said the horse was his, and that he bought him in the White-horse inn-yard in the Fleet-market; he shewed the receipt, and said if I would go there, he would bring his vouchers. Accordingly I went; I got a constable, and put the rider and Mr. Jones in his custody; and in the mean time he sent his friends out, and took the woman at the bar. There was Joseph Peacham the hostler of the White-horse, and another man, vouched Mr. Jones bought the horse of this woman; and the woman owned she sold him the horse, and said she had him of one Williamson for a debt, and said he was a little petty farmer near Chelmsford in Essex; in a little time after, she said she had him of a man at Burntwood; after that, she said she had him of a boy from Portsmouth the Monday before she came to the inn, which was before he was lost. We took her before my Lord-Mayor, she there owned she sold this horse, and that she could give no account of the boy that she had him of, but said he belonged to the sea.

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #78 on: Friday 15 July 16 23:42 BST (UK) »
William married Jane Collingwood on December 28, 1766. Jane Collingwood was born about 1740 and died about 1815. Her father was Captain Edward Collingwood, who was born about 1694 and died July 13, 1779 in Greenwich, England.

Parents
Edward Collingwood
1660-1721
Mary Bigge
1663-Unknown
Spouse(s)
Mary Rodham
1700-1783
Jane Carlton
1712-1791

Children
Winifred Collingwood
1744-Unknown
Carlton Collingwood
1746-1871
John Trevor Collingwood
1738-1796
Jane Collingwood
1740-1815
Edward Collingwood
1743-1809
Francis Collingwood 
1745-1799

 {Francis Edward Collingwood  of Trafalgar 1785-1835 was the son of 'Francis Collingwood of Greenwich Esq. by
Sarah, sister of Captain Thomas Richbell RN, Chief Magistrate of the
Thames Police'.105 His grandfather, Edward Collingwood, had been Master
Attendant at Plymouth, Portsmouth, Chatham and Deptford Dockyards. His great Grandfather was Captain Edward Collingwood, 1660-1721}

Susannah Collingwood
1748-1818

Many Collingwoods' made the connections from Ratcliffe and Wapping as they moved to the ship building yards, sawmills and roperies of Woolwich, Greenwich and Deptford shipyards.  The line from Edward Henry the shipwright through John the ropemaker looks likely that 'cousins' will make the connection to Francis Edward Collingwood and his lineage to to Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood.


 Edward was the son of Edward Collingwood (born about 1660 and died in 1721) and Mary Bigge (born about 1663). Captain Collingwood married twice. His first marriage was to Mary Rodham and his second to Jane Carlton. Jane Carlton was born about 1712 in Greenwich and died February 19, 1791 at the Royal Naval Hospital in Greenwich, England. Jane Collingwood was the daughter of Edward Collingwood by his second wife, Jane Carlton.

Admiral Sir William Parker was the eldest. His sister Sarah, was christened March 11, 1744 at Queenborough, Kent. She died unmarried December 4, 1791. A brother Augustine was christened Feb 9,1746 at Queenborough. A sister, Elizabeth Parker, was born October 11, 1748 at Queenborough, Kent, England. She married William Head on July 19, 1785 in Queenborough. A child named Elizabeth Head was born February 9, 1787 also at Queenborough, Kent, England. Another sister Susannah was born and died 1750. A younger brother, Capt. Robert Parker of HMS Intrepid was born April 8, 1753 and died Nov 23, 1797. He married and had 8 children

William and Jane Collingwood Parker had seven daughters and one son. The daughters were named Jane, Sarah, Susanna, Harriet, Ann, Mary and Elizabeth. Harriet is the only daughter who never married. The only son, William George, was born in 1787. He married August 29, 1808, Elizabeth Still, (born 1791)the daughter of James Charles Still of East Knoyle in County Wiltshire and Charlotte Wake. He left a large family and died a vice admiral March 24, 1848.( This information from the book "A Naval Biographical Dictionary" by W.R. O'Byrne published in 1849.) One of the daughters of William George Parker and Elizabeth Still was Fanny Catharine who married Charles Bligh in 1837 and died in 1894. One daughter was named Clara and another daughter, Elizabeth Charlotte was born in 1816 in England. Two of the sons married in Toronto. Melville Parker married Jesse Hector in 1847 and Albert Parker married Lucy Henrietta Jennings in 1851.

The second Admiral Sir William Parker lived from 1781 to 1866 and served as Admiral of the Fleet. He was born on December 1, 1781, the third son of George Parker of Almington, Staffordshire, England. George Parker, his father, was the second son of Sir Thomas Parker, who had been lord chief baron of the exchequer. Sir Thomas Parker's nephew was John Jervis, first earl of St. Vincent, who had married Martha Parker, George Parker's half-sister.

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #79 on: Monday 15 August 16 20:51 BST (UK) »
Researching the Collingwoods that participated at the Old Bailey. Forward/Backward click -1685-1908

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18480515-name-918&div=t18480515-1350#highlight

Reference Number: t18480515-1350
Offence: Theft > simple larceny
Verdict: Guilty > no_subcategory; Guilty > no_subcategory
Punishment: Transportation

15th May 1848
1350. PATRICK BRYAN and JAMES KERR , stealing 12lbs, weight of copper, value 6s.;the goods of Duncan Dunbar; both having been previously convicted.
GEORGE WILSON. I am a constable of the East and West India Docks I was on duty on 14th April, about one o'clock, at the East India Dock basin—I saw prisoners and two other men come out of the import dock, and go out of the gate leading on to the Brunswick Wharf—I saw Bryan and one of the others run out of the gate—I informed some other officers—we all went out into the road, and saw the two prisoners and the other two menbryan looked bulky—I went up to him and said. "Bryan, you have got something about you; you must come inside"—I took him in, and found on him these four parcels of copper, two inside his waistcoat and two inside his trowsers—he said he had found it in the dust-bin—I had seen the prisoners leave the dock in the same directions, with the same two men, once previous to that.
JOHN WHITE. I am a constable of the dock. I was at the export dock gate when Willson stopped Bryan—I stopped Kerr—he said, "You won't want me; you want the other men that have run away"—I said, "I have got you and I shall keep you"—I searched him, and found 4lbs, of copper in the waistband of his trowsers—he said it was given him by a man in a public-house—Bryan said, "It is no use telling a lie about it; we may as well tell the truth."
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD. I am in the employ of a shipwright I was employed in taking some copper off the ship Earl Grey, belonging to Mr. Duncan Dunbar—I threw the copper on the punt—I can swear to all this copper, except two pieces—it came off that ship—two of these pieces in particular I can swear to, and the other I have no doubt of—they were all in the punt, which was under the ship's acting as a stage for me to work at the vessel—I know this piece by my own marking on it, and this one by its acting as a brace under the pump case.
JAMES GATLOR. I am ship-keeper of the Earl Grey, and live on board I took the copper from the punt into the store, where it was kept—it belonged to Duncan Dunbar—I went to the store on the day after this copper was found, and it was all gone.
Kerr. Q. How long was the copper in the store before you missed it? A. About nine or ten days.
THOMAS PINNER. I was working for Mr. Gladstone—I went to the store shed between ten and eleven o'clock—I found the padlock broken—I told the officer—I found the prisoners in custody the same day.
SAMUKL GLADSTONE. I am superintendent to Mr. Duncan Dunbar. I know this copper—this is a piece we took off the cook's house—I sent this to the store-shed—this other came from the ship Westmeath, and was in the same shed—I saw the shed the day previous, and the lock was quite safe—both the ships belong to Mr. Duncan Dunbar.
Bryan's Defence. I passed by the dock officer; he saw no copper with me.
WILLIAM SOMES. I ama constable of the London Dock. I produce a certificate of Bryan's former conviction, at Clerken well—(read—Convicted Oct., 1847, and confined three months)—he is the person.
THOMAS HOLMES. I am an inspector of police. I produce a certificate of Kerr's former conviction, at this Court—(read—Convicted April, 1840, and transported for seven years)—he is the person.
BRYAN— GUILTY. Aged 28.
KERR— GUILTY. Aged 32.
Transported for Ten Years.

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Re: Edward Henry Collingwood b.1817 - d.1878 Old Hong Kong
« Reply #80 on: Monday 29 August 16 11:53 BST (UK) »
EDWARD HENRY COLLINGWOOD, 1817 - 1878

     
  (Oct 2015) was the 137th anniversary of his death in Hong Kong. October 24th 1878
 Died from fever from exposure while fixing storm damage on Dharwar

http://goo.gl/eI3gTr


William Inkster 10 years later in 1888 was on his last voyage on the Dharwar.
He saved the ship from certain disaster by making good the ships damaged steering gear
in a devasting storm.
He became famous in his day as the shipwright that saved the Dharwar!

When not at sea both William Inkster and Edward Henry Collingwood worked as pyrfeldart time
firemen. Edward lived for some time at Gillender St (formally Masters Lane, that runs parallel to the A12 tunnel approach from about 1865) next to the now dis-used firestation in proximity to the Poplar Seamarans Hospital that closed in 1951 to make way for the Blackwall Tunnel entrance. Seven of his former addresses were demolished for the new Tunnel Approach widening scheme and the Poplar Housing / Lansbury market new developments - (Masters Lane, Ellerthorpe St, Cawdor St, Aberfeldy St, Dee St, Lochnagar St, and his birthplace Tuckers Court Alley was demolished for the expansion of the Poplar Workhouse and a school for the poor in Poplar High St also to make way for the East-West India railway lines that now cut through Tuckers Crt and Dolphin Lane  cutting off the access to the West India Docks - 1839.

William Inkster  of the Dharwar
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