Author Topic: Wellington Archives divorce look up COMPLETED  (Read 2481 times)

Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,373
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 April 13 02:53 BST (UK) »

George remarried 1931 and stayed in Napier. (have his marriage details)


Hi  ... do you have this 1931 marriage certificate (or printout) ?   
Likewise, the date (or if not, then at least the year) of divorce, should be included in George's details.

   ~  Lu

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,373
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 April 13 03:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Should also point out that NZ records show that both the 1905 and 1931 marriages, were registered with the surname, GEORGE (rather than with the hyphenated Thorne-George.)

1905
PHILIPS - Tottie Hyde  [NZSG Marriages CD shows forename as "Lottie" ]
GEORGE - George Thorne

1931
GEORGE - George Thorne
KROGH - Helen Susan

   ~  Lu

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,373
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 April 13 03:11 BST (UK) »

Any info you can give concerning locations pre and post divorce might be helpful but it still looks like the looker-upper is going to have to slog through a Divorce Register or two. Hopefully the entries are in alphabetical order.


The Divorce registers are in alphabetical order of surname.

I'm not able to do this look-up for you, but if I were, (and the year of divorce was not known), then I'd commence at 1931 and work backwards.  ;)

  ~  Lu

Offline red3

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 175
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 April 13 04:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Lucy
Thank you for your advice. 
Always learning.
The surname is "Thorne-George"  It's one of those surnames which is offen mixed up.
Regards Red3
Ghent/Gent- Nottinghamshire, Canada to NZ
Brown- Ireland to NZ
Just- Durham to NZ
Battensby-Durham to NZ
Protheroe- Pembrokeshire /London to NZ
Capstick-Lancashire /York to NZ

Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,373
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 April 13 22:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Lucy
Thank you for your advice. 
Always learning.
The surname is "Thorne-George"  It's one of those surnames which is offen mixed up.
Regards Red3

Hi again Red3

You didn't mention whether you had the actual certificates (or printouts) for the 1905 and 1931 marriages ?   

Yes, I can see that the births of three children to Hyde and George, were registered as "Thorne George" ... but do you have official documentation which shows both of those marriages were also in the name of "Thorne George" ??
Maybe I've missed something ?      I'm only going by what I can see on the NZ BDM online Marriage Index and the NZSG Marriages CD - both of which indicate the two marriages were registered under the surname of GEORGE.

As has already been intimated here, the search through the divorce registers could well be a lengthy one for whomever volunteers to undertake this task.

My reason for previously posting "that which is officially recorded in the NZ Marriage Index" - and shows the 1905 marriage listed under the surname of GEORGE, was mainly for the benefit of the volunteer.  ;)
Because it will be the 1905 marriage certificate in the surname of GEORGE on which the details of the divorce have been recorded, it seems probable that divorce proceedings were conducted under the surname of GEORGE ?

[But as always, I'm happy to be corrected. ]  ;)

  ~  Lu
   

 


Offline Lucy2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,373
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 April 13 00:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Red2

Don't know whether you've looked at the NZ electoral rolls as yet ?

Hyde and George are both listed under the surname of GEORGE ... but (perhaps interestingly), they don't appear together (at a common address), at all.    [And Hyde, listed as (surname) GEORGE - Hyde Thorne, disappears after 1919 ??   Have tried a search just using her forename - but so sign of her after that year.   Should note that the rolls for 1922 and 1925 are not amongst those able to be viewed online. ]

The 1919  rolls show the following :

1919 - East Cape - Gisborne
GEORGE - Hyde Thorne - 29 Fox Street, Gisborne - married

1919 - Hawkes Bay - Napier

GEORGE - George Thorne - Corry Avenue - Insurance Manager

In 1928, George is living in Napier :

1928 - Hawkes Bay - Napier
GEORGE - George Thorne - Hawkes Bay Club, Marine Parade - Insurance manager

George's bride-to-be is also in Napier in 1928:

KROGH - Helen Susan - 89 Marine Parade - spinster
----------------

In 1935 - GEORGE, Helen Susan - married, and GEORGE, George Thorne - Insurance Manager are at 100 Marine Parade, Napier.    In 1946 Helen Susan GEORGE at same address but now a widow.
From 1954 Helen Susan GEORGE is listed at Napier using the name THORNE GEORGE, Helen Susan.

   ~  Lu

Offline Janette

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,637
  • Good night Kiwi
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 April 13 02:49 BST (UK) »
I have just found a photo of the Thorn-George family with Sir George Grey,it is not dated but he looks elderly and he died in 1898.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0tj2/

Description
Group portrait of Sir George Grey with the Thorne George family including George, Murray, Annie, Seymour Jnr, Zoe, Sydney, Ida, Seymour, Godfrey and Julia
Auckland Region (N.Z.)


Cheers Janette


Online spades

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,287
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 April 13 01:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Red3,

I'm willing to have a look for this divorce file you're after, and intend to visit Archives on Friday.

It will help narrow my search to one year if you can tell me whether you have either or both of the marriage certificates (1905 and 1931) for George Thorne or THORNE-GEORGE, and if so if they provide a date of divorce for him.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

Online spades

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 5,287
    • View Profile
Re: Wellington Archives divorce look up
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 April 13 01:23 BST (UK) »
Red3 replied to my question by PM.

I have ordered the Divorce Registers for Napier and will view them early next week. :)

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL