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Offline KathyN

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Re: ORR & YOUNG
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 19 November 16 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm  Now it gets weird.  Found an ancestry tree with him, but mother not an Elizabeth but he is buried at Drumee, Castlewellan - which I think where you found Thetford Orr buried!

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Re: ORR & YOUNG
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 19 November 16 08:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maggiemay
... it appears Elizabeth Sparkes' marriage to Tedford is not her first marriage.
"6 Sep 1928, Belfast News-letter, Albert Sparks, interment notice later, ..... by his Mother and Stepfather, Elizabeth and Tedford Orr". 
PRONI no will image but admin to Elizabeth Orr married woman
Sparks Albert of Ballybannon Annsborough county Down draper's assistant died 6 September 1928 at Down County Infirmary Administration Belfast 21 December to Elizabeth Orr married woman. Effects £3.
There was no Will- if there had been it would have said probate rather than administration.

According to GRONI's database, Albert Sparks died 5 Sept.1928 and was 25 years old (so born c1903).

The closest Albert Spark(e)s I could find in 1911 census is this one with sister Elizabeth Anne- his age slightly off- but she's 32 years old-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Artana_Street/158286

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same family here in 1901 without Elizabeth Anne in household-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Ballymartrim/Cullentragh/1011735
Eliza Anne Sparks in 1901- assistant matron Belfast Prison?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Crumlin_Road/961272
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: ORR & YOUNG
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 20 November 16 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Birth found for Albert Cahill 1st April 1905    Amargh
Father: Patrick Cahill, Prison Warder of College Hall
Mother: Eliza Ann Cahill formerly Sparks

Cannot find a marriage...


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Re: ORR & YOUNG
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 20 November 16 07:44 GMT (UK) »
I'm assuming you have the birth record for Sydney....
6 Dec 1914 Belfast Sydney Sparks
No father recorded
Mother:  Lizzie Sparks - a seamstress
Note:  Re-registered under the legitimacy act at no 218
on 31 Dec 1945.