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Offline Belfast Gail

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 19 May 13 21:41 BST (UK) »
This is obviously a substantial piece of work, Aghadowey, and I'm concerned about involving you to such an extent.
Would you be able to even point me in the direction of some of this information to look up for myself?
Many, many thanks
Gail
Moorhead - Carnew, Lisnaward & Garvaghy
Barron - Lisnaward
Hay - Coleraine
Elder - Ballymoney, Coleraine, Portstewart
Kennedy - Coleraine & Knock, Belfast
Stevenson - Surrey
Mack & Mussen - Lisburn

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 12:57 BST (UK) »
Hello again, Aghadowey
I'm back on the trail now summer's over.  Would you be able to suggest where I might start looking again for Edward (Ned).  I've heard good reports about the Coleraine Chronicle historical room - would you recommend starting there, perhaps?
Many thanks
Gail
Moorhead - Carnew, Lisnaward & Garvaghy
Barron - Lisnaward
Hay - Coleraine
Elder - Ballymoney, Coleraine, Portstewart
Kennedy - Coleraine & Knock, Belfast
Stevenson - Surrey
Mack & Mussen - Lisburn

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 14:51 BST (UK) »
Hello again!

The Chronicle does not keep back copies for reference. The old issues (along with a few other local papers) are on microfilm now at Coleraine Library (formerly part of the Irish Room collection up at County Hall). There is an index to the Chronicle (from its start in 1844 until 1869) for births, deaths and marriages but otherwise it's a matter of searching through the appropriate roll or rolls.

The microfilm and readers are upstairs (ask at main desk for access) and best to book a reader ahead of time (you can reserve for an hour still I think and then continue if a machine is free). Staff are very helpful.

They also have microfilmed copies of church records (Co. Derry and Co. Antrim) which are duplicates of ones in PRONI- some better quality that others. If there are any particular churches/dates post here as I have a copy of their list with their reference numbers. You are not allowed to photocopy the church records but can take notes from them.
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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 19 September 13 11:07 BST (UK) »
That's a great help, Aghadowey - thank you.
Looks like a day out in Coleraine town for me!
Gail
Moorhead - Carnew, Lisnaward & Garvaghy
Barron - Lisnaward
Hay - Coleraine
Elder - Ballymoney, Coleraine, Portstewart
Kennedy - Coleraine & Knock, Belfast
Stevenson - Surrey
Mack & Mussen - Lisburn


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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 19 September 13 11:49 BST (UK) »
Forgot to mention parking- there isn't any! Free parking that is- all now pay and display (except for 1 or maybe 2 near library).
Waterside- Castle Lane, behind Clothworkers' Building- plenty of spaces usually very empty, footbridge from Waterside across Bann comes out by Dunnes, just walk past Dunnes and use crossing light to back of library. New traffic light system makes it easier to get out and head in any direction. Main entrance has steep set of steps, handicapped entrance via children's section on ground floor (near crossing light).
Small car park next to Methodist Church (across from Dunnes, library on other side of church)- more expensive, sometimes full and one-way traffic system mean you end up driving all around Coleraine to get out.
Old Dunnes car park (off Circular Road)- often full and not well laid out for getting in and out of spaces, have to follow one-way system through town to get in and out.

Might even nip in to say 'hello' if I know when you'll be there  ;)
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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 21 September 13 12:32 BST (UK) »
I would love that, Aghadowey.

I need to get a day set aside and when I do, I'll be in touch.

Thank you for the wonderful directions!

Gail
Moorhead - Carnew, Lisnaward & Garvaghy
Barron - Lisnaward
Hay - Coleraine
Elder - Ballymoney, Coleraine, Portstewart
Kennedy - Coleraine & Knock, Belfast
Stevenson - Surrey
Mack & Mussen - Lisburn

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 21 September 13 13:42 BST (UK) »
Not sure what happened to my last post but there seems to be a bit missing  :-\

Should read-
Forgot to mention parking- there isn't any! Free parking that is- all now pay and display (except for 1 or maybe 2 handicapped spaces near library).

Send me a PM when you get a visit arranged and I'll be in touch  :)
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 10:58 GMT (UK) »
As a boy we used to queue in the car to go on to portstewart strand and the receipt used to read “the hay estate”
My dad explained that the estate owned a few yards of roadway but not the beach itself
The area between high and low tide is always crown property so that makes sense
I seem to remember some connection between the family and jimmy Kennedy the famous song writer but I could easily be mistaken about that

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Re: Hay family of Coleraine
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 11:21 GMT (UK) »
How lovely to hear from you, Harry.
This is the same Hay family.  I attach a ticket showing 'Hay Estate' - I found it in an old box of stuff in the attic!
My understanding is that when Edward Hay died in 1889, he intended access to the beach would be free to the people of Portstewart in perpetuity, but a branch of the family elected to levy a charge against his wishes.  I'm not sure how/when the charge stopped but this ticket dates back to the 1960s or 1970s, so it was still in effect as late as that.
One of Edward's grandsons, my grandfather, Edward James - 'Jimmy', married Margretta Kennedy, daughter of James Kennedy.  He was a master builder in Coleraine, not a composer.  Jimmy's cousin, Edward Norman Hay, was a composer, however, of some note.
Thanks for getting in touch.
Gail
Moorhead - Carnew, Lisnaward & Garvaghy
Barron - Lisnaward
Hay - Coleraine
Elder - Ballymoney, Coleraine, Portstewart
Kennedy - Coleraine & Knock, Belfast
Stevenson - Surrey
Mack & Mussen - Lisburn