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Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« on: Thursday 16 May 13 00:51 BST (UK) »
Does any one have any info on The Pelican Inn Devizes? I believe from various directories that Horatio Nelson Perry owned and ran it but the census record shows him in Southbroom. I think his father around 1820 was William Perry.Is there any way I can check this.Thanks. M Inn
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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 May 13 20:51 BST (UK) »
Can you add a little detail that might help someone look for info?

When was HNP born?
When you say "his father around 1820 was William Perry" do you mean that was WP's approx date of birth?

The GRO index shows

- two deaths for the name Horatio Nelson Perry in Devizes: 1844 and 1853
- a birth for that name in 1850 in Bath -- and that person seems (from the censuses, a chemist) to have married in 1884 in Gravesend and then died there in 1909
- marriages for that name in 1846 Leicester, 1876 Burton, 1894 Farnham

Can you give details of the census record in Southbroom? (It doesn't seem to be a census location until 1901.)

In 1881 there was a Morris family at the Pelican Inn in Devizes St John.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 May 13 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi

Horatio Nelson Perry
Pigots 1830 page 799
Pelican, Market Place, Devizes

Was this one of your "various directories"?

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 May 13 21:53 BST (UK) »
There is some information on the Pelican here

http://www.devizesheritage.org.uk/inns.html

William Perry was recorded as landlord in 1818

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:29 BST (UK) »
The 1830 one could be the one married to Sarah, born c1799. In 1841 he was a farmer in Bishops Canning. This is probably his will, 1853:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/D30813?descriptiontype=Full&ref=PROB+11/2174/322

He married a Sarah Perry daughter of Thomas, but his father's name is not stated here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6RN-Q3F

I think the one who died in 1844 was probably that one's son who is in the 1841 census.

Of course, there could have been another HNP who died before 1837.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 May 13 22:31 BST (UK) »

Southbroom House? Southbroom Farm? Southbroom Cottage?

Was the Royal Oak renamed the Pelican?

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 May 13 23:01 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census seems to say Southbroom farm house, for both the Horatio and Sarah Perry household and the John and Priscilla Berry household just before them.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 May 13 00:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for a great response. This all sounds very positive. Now 12:10 at night and my brain is addled! Will get back to you all later when I have had a chance to sort through the bits of info.
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Re: Perrys of The Pelican Inn Devizes Wiltshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 May 13 16:39 BST (UK) »
In case any of ollowing snippets help:

Horatio Nelson Perry, son of Thomas & Mary Perry christened 31st December 1798
(Christened with brother George Baker Perry)

Horatio Nelson Perry married Sarah, daughter of William Perry of Bishops Canning, at St Johns, Devizes on 11th April 1821.

Christenings at St Johns Devizes
20 Jan 1823 Thomas Perry born 1st November 1822 son of Horatio Nelson Perry (post chaise driver) and Sarah
5 July 1825 Sarah Eliza Ann Perry born 3rd November 1824 son of Horatio Nelson Perry (victualler) and Sarah
14 Jan 1833 Mary Perry born born 22nd Dec 1829 daughter of Horatio Nelson Perry and Sarah.
14 Jan 1833 Elizabeth Perry born 14th Feb 1832 daughter of Horatio Nelson Perry and Sarah.
Christening at St James, Southbroom
30th June 1839 Horatio Nelson Perry born 6th March 1834 son of Horatio Nelson Perry and Sarah
25th January 1842 Fanny Perry daughter of Horatio Nelson Perry & Sarah

The eldest son of Mr Perry of the Pelican Inn, Devizes died on 28th September 1837.
(Death of a Thomas Perry registered Devizes December 1837)

In 1840 Horatio Nelson Perry advertised that, after many years, he was retiring from business at The Pelican, Devizes. The business, together with his Fly & Gig business would be continued by Wm Joyce. H.N.P would continue his Waggon & Van business as before.

The vans of Mr H N Perry were still running in 1852

1841 Census
?, Devizes
Horatio Perry     40 Farmer Y
Sarah Perry        40              Y
Sarah Perry        15              Y
Mary Perry        11              Y
Elizth Perry       10              Y
Horatio Perry      7               Y

In 1844 Horatio Nelson Perry, Sarah Ann Eliza Perry (presumably his daughter) and a Eliza Sawyer were in partnership as haberdashers in Marlborough. Sawyer left partnership.

Death of a Horatio Nelson Perry registered Devizes June 1844 [son?]

Sarah, eldest daughter of Horatio Nelson Perry, of Spital Croft, Devizes married Alfred William Bane, son of Thomas Bane,  at St Peters, Marlborough, on 11th May 1846

Mary, second daughter of H N Perry, of Spitalcroft, married R Perry, chemist of Bath, on 29th July 1848 at the chapelry of St John, Devizes green.

In 1849 Horatio Nelson Perry gave up dairy farming at Spittle Croft Farm, Devizes and his livestock was auctioned off.

1851 Census
Devizes Green
Horatio N Perry Head 52 Carrier Devizes
Sarah Perry        Wife 50              ?
Elizabeth Perry  Dau   18             Devizes
Fanny Perry       Dau     9             Devizes

Horatio Nelson Perry died at Spittal Croft, Devizes, aged 55, on 1st March 1853

Fanny, youngest daughter of late Horatio Nelson Perry of Devizes, married Theodore Royle, eldest son of W.R Royle of Ludgate Hill and Gibson Square, Islington, on 3rd September 1867 at St Johns, Devizes.

Sarah, relict of Horatio Nelson Perry, died at New Southgate, London, aged 69, died 23rd March 1871


Horatio Nelson Perry was  the brother of Mr Thomas Perry of the Bell Inn, Devizes Green.
Thomas Perry left the Bell Inn, Devizes Green in 1826