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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 19 May 13 14:34 BST (UK) »
Carol,

Each certificates you have ordered will be sent seperately via snail mail .

Yes, I think waiting for the certificates before updating the timeline is a good idea.

I have no knowledge of how to research police records but I hope someone will be able to offer some suggestions as to how go about doing so.  :)

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 19 May 13 14:48 BST (UK) »
calendars of prisoners, which are the arrest, trail, conviction court records etc
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/criminal-trial-or-conviction.htm

The only police 'records' I have are from a police note book which was in the personal possessions of a policeman and the family gave it to the local FH society as his beat was in the village and  it meantioned many names and interviews he took about the people he arrested and were later convicted.

Not sure about the actual police record I would assume they would be archived ( with the police or the records office)
Maybe it is worth asking the derbyshire force directly...especially if you give tham the timeline of the  story so far http://www.derbyshire.police.uk/My-Local-Police/DDivision/IlkestonSection/IlkestonSection.aspx

.........and another thought would be have you contacted the Ikeston Advertiser? Ilkeston is a small town and you may get some real interest from other sources if they run a story and they are highly likely to especially if you can get an investigative journalist interested http://www.ilkestonadvertiser.co.uk/

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Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 19 May 13 14:51 BST (UK) »
http://www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk/history/familyhistory/fhintroduction.htm
Another avenue to look into if you haven't already :o check out 'PROJECTS' certainly your story would be of great interest

....and for Basford http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/mellorsarticles/basford1.htm
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 19 May 13 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol,

In my experience the certificates will be sent out the 23rd and you should have them within 5 days from UK.  Its quicker to get a letter from England to Ontario than sending one from ON to BC lol.
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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 19 May 13 16:15 BST (UK) »
calendars of prisoners, which are the arrest, trail, conviction court records etc
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/criminal-trial-or-conviction.htm

The only police 'records' I have are from a police note book which was in the personal possessions of a policeman and the family gave it to the local FH society as his beat was in the village and  it meantioned many names and interviews he took about the people he arrested and were later convicted.

Not sure about the actual police record I would assume they would be archived ( with the police or the records office)
Maybe it is worth asking the derbyshire force directly...especially if you give tham the timeline of the  story so far http://www.derbyshire.police.uk/My-Local-Police/DDivision/IlkestonSection/IlkestonSection.aspx

.........and another thought would be have you contacted the Ikeston Advertiser? Ilkeston is a small town and you may get some real interest from other sources if they run a story and they are highly likely to especially if you can get an investigative journalist interested http://www.ilkestonadvertiser.co.uk/
My thoughts as well

Taken from the linked thread reply 109 page 11

 I am not sure how far Carol want's to go on this, but I sure the Media would be interested in this, you never know there maybe someone out there, that may have some handed down information that could help.

So if there is anyone on Roots that is involved in the Media your thought's on this
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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 19 May 13 16:51 BST (UK) »
I don't know now, 20 years ago I could have put Carol in touch with an investigative reporter in any of the Notts/Derby towns for any of the papers.

The Ilkeston Advertiser  belongs to Johnson Press, as does the 'Belper News' ( think I remember something about Belper in the threads, may be wrong .... forgive me if I am) also the 'Chad' which covers several town in Notts and the 'Daventry Express' ( again I can't remember if the thread goes there) Leicester is the 'Leicester Mercury'

http://www.ilkestonadvertiser.co.uk/contact-us but as Johnson Press own lots of them,  if Ilkeston was contacted it will run in the others they own covering several areas........ 20 years ago I would have loved to be able to investigate and  print this story.
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 19 May 13 17:04 BST (UK) »
Karen, I won't start watching for the mailman just yet then ...  I'm anxious to have these certificates in-hand. 
With respect to the media issue, I completely understand the interest and the sense that it could prove to be very helpful.  However ...  deeply entrenched in my brain are my dear Mom's words that "blood is thicker than water".  This story is not just mine.  There are other 'real' people attached to it on the other end - real people with real lives who could end up being affected, negatively, by this story.  I cannot 'knowingly' do that to them - I have to be able to sleep at night ...  Once the proof of ancestry is known, I will try to connect with relatives and we'll go from there, so my preference would be to put the media issue on the back burner, if only for the time being. 

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 19 May 13 17:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

excuse me butting in, but the Nottingham Post might be worth a shot for placing a story - Maybe aim it at the "Bygones" which is a monthly supplement  that covers local history.

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/people/Nottingham%20Post/profile.html#axzz2TkqKyF35

I would also suggest talking to Radio Nottingham and getting them on board:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radionottingham

Fascinating story, and I wish you good luck!

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Re: Seeking Family of Mary Ann Fisher, born Oct. 1895, Basford
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 19 May 13 17:22 BST (UK) »
Speaking of Harry Potter and wizards:

Found this http://www.ilkestonhistory.org.uk/history/familyhistory/portraits1/portraits1.htm
on Ilkeston and District Local History Society webpage.

Scroll down to "Dr Harry Potter, born 1854 Ilkeston"

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