Yes I know all that but what my problem is that Isabella Healy on different birth and marriage certificates of her children with David Grey give her name and place of birth different each time, one has her as Irish another has her born in Spain, so I imagine her father must have been in the Army in Spain to have had her there, still cannot find who she is and when she came out here, on her death it states age 78 in 1912 and in colony abt 62yrs. Because there was only one Healy on board that ship, I thought may be David and Margaret had got to know each other on the long voyage and then married in 1852. Back to the drawing board!!!!!!!
Trish
David Gray’s marriage 7 June 1852 likely would be a Presbyterian ceremony (noted as St Andrews Scots Church, Sydney on one of the transcriptions below)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZQ-QJ2 bride transcribed as Isabella HEBY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCR-J4X bride transcribed as Isabella HELY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZ6-49M bride transcribed as Isabella FLEETY
Here’s a baptism for a baby to the couple : (pre civil registration era)
Thomas John GRAY, father as David GRAY and mother as Isabella HEATY with christening as 19 Dec 1853.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDD-57W May I suggest you check the NSW BDM birth certificate for the Richard GRAY, birth registered in the Concord district, with parents listed on the index as David and Isabella. It is a civil registration, so it should have more information that the baptism records held by NSW BDM as part of their Early Church Records collection. It should give you information about the older siblings of the baby who was born 31 December 1875. The reference no. is #3723/1876. The Official Transcription option will have all the same information as the real deal certificate, and is a cheaper option.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx It was not until after WWI that printed forms were used for applicants to fill in when registering births in NSW. So, basically, depending on the accent of the informant and the accent of the clerk asking the questions, and depending also on the clerk's ability to spell, and then depending on the ability of the volunteers who prepared the index for NSW BDM in the 1930s to read the long hand entries in the Early Church Records .... well there's spelling errors ! ..... And of course, it also depends on if it were Dad or Mum registering the births.... (the informant was asked about their own origins and marriage as well as information about the newborn)
Cheers, JM