census 1901 Hartlepool. Alexander Snowball born 1862, wife Mary

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Help please with Census 1901/1911
Cannot find Alexander Snowball's birth 1862 at Stranton,Hartlepool or his marriage to a Mary.
Believe he could be Aber Snowball born 1862 Hartlepool to William Snowball/ Margaret Corner.
I have their children's names & births and wonder if someone has access &  kindly look up 1901/1911 census Hartlepool details for Alexander Snowball for me please, may give more info him.
If anyone needs help with Co Durham & N'land Snowballs I have researched many of them,being my family.

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1861  Alexander Snowball born dec quarter Hartlepool Durham 10a 106

This could be a longshot there is a Ellick Snowball marriage June quarter1882 Hartlepool same page Mary Pearson 10a 180


Pam

[keyboard86]

1861  Alexander Snowball born dec quarter Hartlepool Durham 10a 106

This could be a longshot there is a Ellick Snowball marriage June quarter1882 Hartlepool same page Mary Pearson 10a 180


Pam

Hi Pam, that marriage looks good, their is another thread (by someone else) where another Alexander was shown as Ellick/Elick, I looked it up, it is the 1871 where Elick is used RG10/4931/42/44 (And it is written Elick on the original) and in 1861 RG09/3807/94/2 Elick becomes Alexander, so possibly it is a local corruption of Alexander ie Alec?

I am certain someone will put us right!
Keyboard86

PS and this was a Snowball as well!

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1901. Alexander age 39 at 101 Murray Street, West Hartlepool, occupation Ships Riveter, born West Hartlepool.
Mary age 42, wife, born Hartlepool
Children:- Annie 18, Alexander 16, occup. Rivet Heater, John W 13 occup. Rivet Heater, James 11, Mary F 9, Robert 8, Lilian 6, Ellen 2, Isalena 7 months.

All children listed as born West Hartlepool except Alexander who was born at Wingate.

We aren't allowed to put details of the 1911 census on RC but the family were still in Hartlepool.

Ian

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Thank you Pam and very grateful Ian, you have correct Alexander 1901 census am lookin for.
I found most of those children, apart from last 2 born. Now I have an address. I am fairly sure Abel was Alexander, he 20 stated coal miner born Sunderand on 1881 census as boarder at Railway Inn, Castle Eden - he cannot be the other Alexander's born at Sunderland,I have data those there, however Castle Eden was link with "Abel's" parents living there in 1864 when the father William Snowball died. Maybe was a transcription 1871 census mistake, Alex named as Abel,  not found anything later for Abel.
 The Snowballs had earlier connections with Witton Gilbert and Sunderland.
Mother Margaret H Corner had remarried 1866 & by 1871 census was a Widow using 2nd husband's surname Stephenson and with her were William Snowball's children including "Abel".
    Many thanks everyone for help.

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the marriage at all saints church, stranton, west hartlepool, on 24 april, 1882.

ellick snowball, aged 21, and a rivetter.
son of (not known).
residing in stranton.

mary pearson, aged 23, and a spinster.
daughter of william james pearson, a master mariner.
residing in stranton.

witnesses were j butterwick and belinda atkinson.
clergy was john rudd.
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ABOVE TYPED AS IT IS IN THE CHURCH BOOK.
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northern daily mail
west hartlepool
21 december 1934

snowball
on the 19th, alexander, aged 73, husband of the late mary snowball. cortege to leave 22 milton road 3pm prompt saturday, for stranton grange cemetery. boilermakers and raglan club members kindly invited.
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he will have been called "ellick" because of accent problems which were prevalent in the censuses - they wrote down what they heard.
CENSUSES GIVE WRONG CHRISTIAN NAME AND DEATH NOTICE GIVES CORRECT NAME.
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please be aware that prior to amalgamation in 1967 the towns of hartlepool and west hartlepool were separate entities.

[keyboard86]

Hi re christian name of Ellick/Elick, I just put Ellick (with variants box ticked) in the 1861 census, it was a christan name throughout the UK, so not certain if it was/is a misheard Alexander?

Also is their any relevance to no father being mentioned for Ellick at marriage?

Keyboard86

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Hi re christian name of Ellick/Elick, I just put Ellick (with variants box ticked) in the 1861 census, it was a christan name throughout the UK, so not certain if it was/is a misheard Alexander?

Also is their any relevance to no father being mentioned for Ellick at marriage?

Keyboard86

OK after googling a bit, Ellick is a boys name of Greek or Anglo-Saxon origin, meaning "Defender of Humankind"

Alexander is also Greek meaning " Defefender of men"
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again it has driven me barmy looking for Alexander in the 1871, you may already have this, but is this him?

1871 census

Margaret Stephenson 53 Head
Thos SNOWBALLS 24 son
William 22 son
Robt 18 son
Margaret C 16 daugh
Anthony 12 son
ABEX  9 Grandson ( no pob shown)
Residing at Alfred Street, Stranton
Census ref RG10/4919/7/4
Keyboard86