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Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« on: Wednesday 05 June 13 03:34 BST (UK) »
Can anyone please explain to me this census please?
Henry and Emma Cadman living Windmill? Sq Masboro Rotherham, married 34 yrs, 15 children, 14 still living. He has 15 "sons and daughters" listed with him (one at least must be a grandchild) most of them are definitely his and Emmas children according to my tree, but even the married daughters are listed as "Cadmans" though they are shown as having been married many years, with children! ???
Then at the bottom of the page I see they only have four rooms, with a total of five people living in them.   ::)
Has anyone any idea of what was going on in Henry Cadmans brain please, because I am totally confused?
Pauline
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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 04:41 BST (UK) »
I think poor Henry named all his children.
If you look at the bottom of the page (right under the list of names)  you will see it says that only 5 people are living in the house - 3 males and 2 females which I think would be Henry, Emma, Charles 17, Albert 11 and Ivy 6.  Those are the names not crossed out! :)
Emma is down as aged 51 so it is possible that Albert and Ivy are her children, She would have been about 40 and 45 when they were born
A handy census mistake by Henry if you didn't know who his children were and he even tells you how long his children have been married and how many children they have had. :D  Unfortunately not the married names of the girls.

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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 04:55 BST (UK) »
Annie Matilda married a William Groocock/Growcock in 1895.
I think Eliza Ann may have married a Thomas Mace in 1900

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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 07:01 BST (UK) »
Aha crisane - I see it all now! ;D
Thank you so much for clearing that up for me, and also for the two daughters married names. It all goes to show that two heads are better than one!
Thank you again,
Pauline
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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 07:33 BST (UK) »
I wish some of my rellies had been so helpful. :)

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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 08:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline,
I had an ancestor did exactly the same thing. I was able to use the information to find marriage dates and partners together with their children. This happened even though my ancestor was a successful businessman and should have been well able to fill it in properly. It just shows how misleading the census instructions were and how difficult it must have been for some people to enter the data.

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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave,
It was interesting to hear of your relative doing the same thing. I was trying to imagine how it must have been for my Henry - working all day down the mine, then coming back to a badly lit home, and as you said, the instructions may have seemed quite complicated. But I have been grateful as I was able to work out which one of their children had died - young James at less than a year old. I guess they were very fortunate to have lost only one child out of fifteen. One of their sons married a girl who had lost six out of seven other siblings. It makes you wonder how the parents coped with all that grief.
Thank's Dave, it was good to hear from you,
Pauline
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 June 13 13:09 BST (UK) »
It just shows how misleading the census instructions were and how difficult it must have been for some people to enter the data.

Dave

I think you are right there Dave, so many of the returns I have looked at have the number of years married and number of children columns filed in next to the husband's name then crossed out and rewritten next to the wife.

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Re: Crazy Mixed up 1911 census!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 October 17 10:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline, Annie was my great grandma. I have a book with all the Groocock's in if you need any information.
 All the best Steve Groocock