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poorhouses in the area
« on: Saturday 15 June 13 23:32 BST (UK) »
 ???looking for any poorhouses where my grt granddads' mother may have been giving birth to him.
either in Berwick Selkirk or Edinburgh, colinton.
Marcie dean   john laidlaw born 1872
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
 searl rogers sutherland
Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 June 13 23:34 BST (UK) »
This website gived the addresses etc

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/addresses/

Doesn't his birth cert show where he was born
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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 June 13 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Marcie,

Can you give us John Laidlaw's mothers name, and fathers name if known also. I checked on Scotland Peoples website and there are 8 born in 1872, so may need to check on census first then work back.

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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 June 13 14:49 BST (UK) »
Is this the same John Laidlaw mentioned in reply 7 on this thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,396719.msg3577599.html#msg3577599

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William and his adopted son John

If it is - then John presumably wasn't born as Laidlaw

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 June 13 10:24 BST (UK) »
I think that this might be another thread about him:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=509358.0

And this post and a previous one about RCE suggests he was born Yarrow:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509358.msg3559708.html#msg3559708

The thread goes to 5 pages  :-\

PS - on Birth reg his  mother's name given as Janet M.S Anderson


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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 June 13 10:42 BST (UK) »
 John and Janet married Johnstone, Dumfriesshire on 13th Dec 1872, which might explain the wrongly registered birth (17th Nov 1873) and subsequent RCE  (for 1872) as, in Scotland,  the child would have been legitimised by parents' marriage.

In 1881 the family are here:

Yarrow, Selkirk
John Laidlaw, 32, gamewatcher, b. Ettrick
Janet, w, b. Johnstone
John, s, 7
Janet, d, 6
James, s, 4
Robert, s, 3
William, s, 2

All children b. Yarrow

John and Janet's birthplaces match those on marriage cert.


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Added - related thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,650008.0.html

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 June 13 10:54 BST (UK) »
Hume seems to have found the correct family here (John b.c. 1869):

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509358.msg3407341.html#msg3407341

Hi Marcie, :)

1871: Address: 49 Duke Street, South Leith
William Laidlaw, m, head, 29, cab driver, b. Leith
Margaret Laidlaw, f, wife, 25, -, b. Edinburgh
John Laidlaw, m, son, 2, -, b. Edinburgh

1881: Address: 3 Laurie Street, South Leith
William Laidlaw, m, head, 36, cab man, b. Leith
Margaret Laidlaw, f, wife, 33, -, b. Edinburgh
John Laidlaw, m, son, 12, baker's message boy, b. Edinburgh

1891: Address: 38 Duke Street, South Leith
William Laidlaw, m, head, 48, cab - hirer, b. Leith
Margaret Laidlaw, f, wife, 44, -, b. Edinburgh
John Laidlaw, m, son, 22, cab - hirer, b. Edinburgh

1901?: Address: Hill Street Cancer Hospital, Glasgow
John Laidlaw, m, patient, 36, formerly coachman (domestic), b. Leith

Marriage:
William LAIDLAW and Margaret LAING, 1863, Leith

Children (extracted from IGI):
Charles William LAIDLAW, 1863, Leith (mother Margaret Ann LAING)

I cannot find a birth for John to these parents so it would be interesting to find where you found his birth certificate. It looks like he could have been registered under another name and brought up as William and Margaret as their own.

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 July 13 20:24 BST (UK) »
???looking for any poorhouses where my grt granddads' mother may have been giving birth to him.
either in Berwick Selkirk or Edinburgh, colinton.; also the members og the household family and servants of George grenville levison-gowerof clermiston house.
Marcie dean   john laidlaw born 1872
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
 searl rogers sutherland
Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet

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Re: poorhouses in the area
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 March 17 11:28 BST (UK) »
yes hume that is exactly right there wasn't a birth certificate for him as such, just a ticket stating boy child born and aug 1872
Scotlandorkney flett bell, strickland laird traillcalqahoun.
Lanark/Argyll/Renfrew/Ayr:Smith, Steele,Kirkwood,Hamilton,May,orO'mayscott and anderso, craig , forbes taggart Kirkwood, milloy and steel apart ftom others which are numerous, graham mcilroy. stewart.brown battonisle of sku rothsay etc.
 searl rogers sutherland
Edinburgh/Aberdeen:portsea marsh,brownwhittcomb and others. to numerous to mentionweymouth frank.  Laidlaw,Brown,Dean//Charles/Hall/Slight/Johnston belgium loquet