mary jane prime

[AliIsoMar]

help needed please to find info on my g grandmother mary jane prime born dec 1888 in market bosworth, mother was mary kate prime{ un married} father unknown.

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s & Welcome to the Leicestershire Boards ……

I believe this is your Mary in 1901 Census returns ……
RG 13/ 2965 / 77 / Page 18.

Newbold Verdon
Main Street

Arthur KIRKLAND Head Mar. 42. Coal Miner   b Barlestone
Mary Kate Wife. 39. …….b Newbold Verdon.
MARY JANE PRIME Dau. 12.   b Newbold Verdon.
William PRIME Son. 9.  b Ditto.
Samuel Kirkland Son. 8. b Ditto
Marian Kirkland Dau. 5.   b Ditto.
Sarah Ann Kirkland . Dau. 2.    b Ditto.

Birth Reg for Mary Jane Prime
1888 . DEC QRT.
Mary Jane Prime
Market Bosworth DISTRICT
G,R,O, ref No’. 7a. 83.

MIKE. ……..

[AliIsoMar]

yep that's my g grandmother

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s again. …….

Glad it is your Mary .......

Sorry but she is well hidden in the 1891 Census returns
I have yet to find her for sure…..

MIKE . …….

UPDATED…….

GOT HER !!! .......

1891 Census returns :~ Indexed as surname Bennie

RG12. / 2506./ 90. / Page 21.

A Cottage within the Village of Newbold Verdon.

Arthur Kirkland . 31. Coal Miner. b Barlestone
Mary k PRIME House keeper . 28.    b Newbold Verdon.
Mary J PRIME Dau. 2.    b Newbold Verdon.

MIKE. ……......

[AliIsoMar]

ok thanks for taking the time to look, i have her marriage to leonard e patrick 1887 burton on trent and her 2nd marriage to samuel lawley poss 1956 nuneaton

[AliIsoMar]

it's beginning to look as if arthur kirkland is her birth father as william also a prime isn't born on the 1891 census

[lizdb]

Not necessarily - it is also likely that Mary needed a job to support her and her illegitimate child, and Mr Kirkland needed a housekeeper and was prepared to give her the job even with a child in tow. In time he married her and they had more children.

Unless she names the father of her child on some surviving document ( birthncert, christening) then you will never know the identity of the  father, and it isnt really fair on Mr K to make this assumption.

[lizdb]

ok thanks for taking the time to look, i have her marriage to leonard e patrick 1887 burton on trent and her 2nd marriage to samuel lawley poss 1956 nuneaton

Mary Jane Prime married Leonard in 1907 (not 1887,she wasnt born then)
This was found on
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,651565.0.html

Would be interesting to see who she names as her father on her marriage.
If she names Arthur Kirkland, then it does not prove hge was her biological father, just that he was the father figure in her life. If she leaves it blank, (or names someone else!) then she was not only aware of her illegitimacy, but never considered Arthur in the role of 'father'.

[AliIsoMar]

if she was working for artfur kirkland she had mary j in 1888{ father unknown} then in 1891 while working for mr kirkland she had william prime{ father unknown} she then married arthur kirkland that same year and in 1892/3 she gave birth to samuel kirkland.both mary n william have the surname prime on the 1901 census the other three children mentioned are kirklands