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Liberty of the Tower of London
« on: Thursday 27 June 13 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I'm hoping someone can help me figure out where my husband's ancestors were married and if it's somewhere we can visit in September when we're in London.

According to the marriage certificate, John Christian Try married Elizabeth Ann Atchison March 5th 1843 at 'the Parish Church in the Parish of the Holy Trinity Minories in the Liberty of the Tower of London'.

I've done a bit of research and I think I understand what the Liberty of the Tower of London is/was, but I'd like to know if this was a church anyone could marry in and if it still exists today.

He was a silversmith and the son of Thomas Try, a machinist and she was the daughter of William Atchison, a color-maker. I also searched his address (8 Union Street, Tower Hill) but couldn't find where it exists today.

As we're travelling from Australia and only have a week in London, we want to make best use of our time.

Looking forward to what you can tell me.

Regards,
Tracey Ellis.

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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 June 13 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Some background information for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Trinity,_Minories


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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 June 13 09:53 BST (UK) »
It is spoken of in the past tense so it looks like it no longer exists. It was apparently just ouside the eastern boundary of the city of London.

I will have a look later to see if I can work out where the home address is or was. Do you have him in any census, which may help if we can get some reference points as to where Union street was.

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 June 13 12:46 BST (UK) »
Just quickly, thank you for replying so quickly. I'll come back tomorrow and write some more. It's bedtime for me here in Oz.
Tracey.

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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 June 13 12:01 BST (UK) »
Yes, it would seem the church is no longer there, but at least it's not a carpark!! It's a nice fountain anyway. Thanks Ruskie.

Going back now to the bride's birth, according to information in the diary of her son, Elizabeth Ann Atchison was "born and reared in the Tower of London because her father was a Warder of the Tower. He had been a Warrant Officer in a Highland Regiment." This is a rather neglected branch of the tree (I'm sad to admit) so I have no proof further back than her marriage. Is there any potential truth to this story? Married in 1843 at 'full age', I'm reckoning she was born 1820-22. Where do I look for birth information that far back? I know the GRO goes back to 1837.

Are there records of the Warders of the Tower? And if he had been a Warrant Officer in a Highland Regiment, would that make him Scottish?

I haven't looked for any of these people in census records, I might make that part of my list for the weekend. Thanks for your help so far.

Regards,
Tracey.

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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 June 13 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

London births and baptisms on Anc....y has this baptism
20th Jul 1835 at St Leonard Shoreditch
Elizabeth Ann Atchison-born 29th Sept 1820. Father William(deceased) Mother Elizabeth(deceased)  Holywell Lane. Trade/Profession Colourman

Also on the same day
Christiana Atchison born 29th May 1819 - same parents, address and occupation
Eliza Georgiana born 3rd Oct 1824 - same parents, address and occupation

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Jaques:London and Wiltshire
Little: Alderton, Wiltshire
Tooke:Lowestoft,Suffolk
Lines:Spexhall,Suffolk
Taaffe:London and Ireland
Browne: Rotherhithe, London
Thorpe: Manthorpe,Lincs
Carrot: Lincs

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Re: Liberty of the Tower of London
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 June 13 13:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jay,
That's interesting information. I don't have access to that website at home, and neither does my local library, but there's one a short drive away that has a licence to it so I'll have a look next time I go there.
Any idea of what a colourman was?

Regards,
Tracey.