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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 19:50 BST (UK) »
Couldn`t find Thomas aged 13
Mary Davies
Margaret Davies
Sarah Cox ( nee Davies ) all in one grave ......last one Sarah buried 1910 ???
maybe make a note of them ?
a bit surprised I couldn`t find Thomas because there is only about a dozen unmarked graves in the whole churchyard,,,loads of Tipping family ,,,my gg grandmothers surname - but we are C of E??...BUT the only Tipping family I know of in Garston are all related to my gg grandmother ...so it was worth my walk because I presume they are my family ...lol
Thank you Alan, I hope the weather was better there than it was in New Brighton!
Depending on the dates,Mary and Margaret could fit the bill, but as Robert (1877) was (possibly?) the last born  child of Thomas and Mary, I don't see a Sarah in the family, which could put the mockers on it.
I've checked on the name'Dennion', waiting for a reply to confirm.
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 20:00 BST (UK) »
In 1861 the Power/Dunnion are in Halls CRT and next entry is Portland Street.
Michael J, 1862 and a baby Robert Dunnion, 1863 are both buried from Portland Street.
You've been busy indeed Heywood,and I'm hoping this is a significant lead, (still working it out !). just one point, Halls CRT??
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 20:11 BST (UK) »
Well, I can't believe this - after all that searching!

1871 3762 / 77 / 15

Thomas Davies lodger head  28 yrs Room Keeper (finance assist.) b Wales Denbigh
Mary wife 27 yrs b Ireland
Elizabeth 3 yrs b Liverpool

Michael Power 62 yrs widower Cooper b Ireland

They are possibly living in Sumner Street - poor writing-  and young Elizabeth has been transcribed as the daughter of the householder - Elizabeth Mercer but she is clearly a Davies.

What makes it really interesting, is that yesterday, I was searching for a Robert Power who married a Mary Ann Davies. Thy had a child with a godparent Maria Davies.I found Robert as son to Michael Power.
If you recall, there is mention of a Mary Ann Power as a godparent.

In 1861 2654/ 266/ 16
Michael and Catherine Power have a daughter and grandson
Mary Dunnion 20 yrs b 1821 Ireland
Michel J Dunnion 2 yrs b Liverpool

Also there is a son to M and C
Robert  Power son 16 yrs


Birth 1859 Michael J Denion
Death 1862 Michael Dunnion

Because of discrepancies with Mary's age and place of birth etc i was going to have another look today before posting this.

I will now let you peruse this and see what you think. In the searching yesterday there is quit a bit of difficult spelling/Latin and mis transcribing  but I couldn't spot a Dunnion marriage.

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Heywood
Hello Heywood, I'm still trying to absorb all of this,so bear with me.
One thing I have noticed, what exactly is the nature of Thomas's occupation? -'Room Keeper' seems fairly straight forward, but (finance assist') has got me.I was expecting to see a marine occupation.
Thanks again for this Heywood.
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 20:17 BST (UK) »
Sorry- I think it reads Halls Court - don't know what happened with the capital letters  :D

Presumably it was a Court off Portland Street as the next family on the census are living on Portland Street.

Just crossed here with your latest message.

I did read it a couple of times and it certainly looks Room Keeper - I thought it might be have been 'Book keeper' with the next bit re finance but it begins with 'R'
Then in brackets (finance as...) can't think what else it could be but it is not clear). It looks to be written at the same time though not added later.

What is his occupation on Robert's birth certificate?
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 21:59 BST (UK) »
On his birth cert-'Fireman', and his marriage- 'Mariner, fireman',which we've previously taken to be- stoker. I've found three possible seamen who died at sea between 1877 and the 1881 census,but confirmation is a while off I think!!
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 22:16 BST (UK) »
I am going to try to attach the occupation
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 02 July 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
From what I have read in the past - these Court houses had possibly 4 families in each house - and with a possible 16 houses in a Court ...could he have been looking after all the properties ( Roomkeeper)- and also collect the rent ( Finance Assist ?)...a bit like a Caretaker in todays modern blocks of flats
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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 03 July 13 07:37 BST (UK) »
Just mulling over the info and some thoughts.

It might be that the Power line I followed is wrong and just coincidence.
We have those baptisms but only Robert's birth details.
Margaret Ann hasn't been found other than in 1881.

I would say, Tom, that a birth certificate for John or Thomas is your next move when you have saved up  :). Because of the common names and the Davis/Davies, you should say that you want Power as mother's name. I haven't looked at BMD for any possibilities.

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Re: liverpool marriage.
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 03 July 13 19:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you Heywood, I suspect you're right, I'll take your advice and add one of them to my 'wants' list. I don't anticipate any further breaks on this one, so I'd like to say thank you to yourself, Alan, and everyone who has pitched in with info, and let this rest for the time being.
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