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Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« on: Sunday 28 July 13 02:15 BST (UK) »
I am looking for any help on offer for: Susannah SOUTHWELL who was born c 1830
and baptised 5 Dec 1833, Doddington, Cambs.
I have info on her Parents -Robert & Betty (Elizabeth) SOUTHWELL and her siblings and she had 2 children - Joseph & John whom I have info on also but it appears that after 1861 Susannah disappears.
I have checked deaths and marriages but haven't found any link and I've been trying to solve Susannah's past for almost 25 years.
 
Susannah is believed to be 3 yrs old when baptised, and therefore 16 yrs when she had Joseph, her first son.

1841 Census (Hookes Drove) Wisbech shows: Susanna age 11 born in this parish.

 1851 Census - Wimblington  Susan (Grandmother) aged 73 yrs was shown to reside at Eastwood End with Susannah  SOUTHWELL aged 21, Joseph aged 5 and John 8 months - all residing at the BULLUPS/BILLUPS residence.

(Cambridgeshire Strays) 1861 Rossendale, Lanc census: Susannah aged 30 born Wimblington with her 2 sons Joseph aged 14 born Wimblington and John aged 11 yrs born Wimblington - no husband listed.  The 1861 census at Lancashire was taken on 7.4.1861 at Rossendale, Lancashire.(Went up North to find work?)

Susannah signed Joseph's Birth Certificate with "X".Source # 203

Susanna SOUTHWELL appears on IGI: Gender: Female. Christening: 25 December 1833 Doddington, Cambridge, Eng.
Any hints or help would be very much appreciated
Thanks Deb

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 July 13 06:30 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at this death from the FreeBMD Index in the Haslingden Reg District where she was living in 1861? Edit - On the original record the reference numbers are very faint

Susannah Southwell   
June Qtr Haslingden    8e   88

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 July 13 06:53 BST (UK) »
John Southwell married in Ashton under Lyne registration district in the March quarter 1871 vol 8d page 703. Do you have his marriage cert to see if Susannah was one of the witnesses?

Later - but in the light of the death found by Kay I doubt that she was!

Where does Rossendale come into it in 1861? Susannah, unmarried, was living at Rawtenstall, Lower Booths, Lancs, albeit Rossendale is close by.
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 July 13 09:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Kay,

I really don't know if I have checked this info, but will investigate.
Because Susannah & sons went to Lancashire as per the Cambridgeshire Strays of 1861 Rossendale, Lanc census, I've been looking into a Marriage or death in Lancashire for Susannah SOUTHWELL.
John (youngest son) settled in Lancs, and Joseph (eldest son) left England on 1st April, 1866 on ship Netherby to Australia (age 19).
I have several death certs on various Susannah's but to date have ha no luck.
Many thanks for all your doing
Deb


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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 July 13 10:01 BST (UK) »
Hi BB!

Perhaps I've mislead myself!
Should I be looking at Rawtenstall and not Rossendale?
And is Rawtenstall in Cambs or Lancs?
I have on record:
1861 Lancashire Strays Index - Rossendale, Lanc
Address is shown as 'Brick Field, Lower Booths'

Susannah SOUTHWELL Place of origin: Wimblington, Head, Age 30 yrs.
Joseph SOUTHWELL of Wimblington, Son, Operative Cotton Mill, Age 14 yrs.
John SOUTHWELL of Wimblington, Son, Operative Cotton Mill, Age 11 yrs.
Film: RG9/3058 34b Folio 118. Reg District Haslingden; sub-district - 2 Rossendale; Enumeration District -9; Ecceles District - St Mary's; Parish - Lower Booths; Address - Brick Field, Lower Booths  Source #204a
Thanks again
Deb

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 July 13 18:14 BST (UK) »
To give the full description:
Superintendent Registrar's District: Haslingden
Registrar's sub district; Rossendale
Township: Lower Booths
Hamlet: Rawtenstall
Address: Brick Field

All these places are in Lancs

I'm not sure there was ever a parish of Rossendale - it was more of an administrative area

David

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
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            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 July 13 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Kay
Re the following death record of Susannah SOUTHWELL,
Yes, I have this death certificate but unfortunately it's not the Susannah I'm looking for. This is where it's become expensive for me. Thanking you Deb

Have you looked at this death from the FreeBMD Index in the Haslingden Reg District where she was living in 1861? Edit - On the original record the reference numbers are very faint

Susannah Southwell   
June Qtr Haslingden    8e   88

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 04:37 BST (UK) »
How about the death in the June quarter 1864 of Susannah Southwell, vol  8e page 76, also in Haslingden registration district? There were only two Susannah Southwell deaths in Haslingden registration district 1861-71.

In 1861 there were two Susannah Southwells living in Haslingden Superintendent Registrar's District, one of whom was aged 70 living in Newchurch; the other was your Susannah. Unfortunately when the death occurred before the time that ages were given in the GRO index;  when there's no online burial that I can find; and if you don't know where she died, you need to keep buying certificates. But as I said, there were only two deaths in the registration district where she was living in 1861 so logically she should be one or other of these. If neither of these was yours then you have a problem!
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Any help or information on Susanna/h SOUTHWELL
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 23:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you BB,
I do have this cert - June quarter 1864 of Susannah Southwell, vol  8e page 76, and unfortunately It's not my Susannah.  I'll keep trying further afield I guess.
Deb