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Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« on: Tuesday 30 July 13 17:43 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

After re-registering for the 3rd time (I know, clumsy, etc) I am going to have another try at this great-grandfather mystery which has haunted me for over 15 years now!

George Haycock
DOB 24 december 1962 Wolverhampton (as per RN service records)
DOD January 1942 Liverpool
1871 census W'hampton with father John Haycock (blacksmith, widower)
1881 census aboard HMS Carysfort
1891 census aboard HMS Eagle, wife Frances (Prince) in Liverpool
1901 census with wife in Liverpool

I recently found his Merchant Navy records and discovered his mother's first name, Maria. However, still no mention of her surname which, according to an aging relative, was either Whitehouse or Whitehead. Have scoured scores of websites, records, etc (you can find me all over the internet) but alas, no sign of either George's official birth papers or his mother's name.

As father John Haycock (Heycock on marriage certificate) is a widower both in 1861 (after wife Susan Dixon/Dickson's death in 1860) and 1871 and I have not been able to find a 2nd marriage for the man, I assume (dangerous, but still) that George was the result of a "fling".

Father John himself is still as elusive as his son, meaning that I haven't found any official records with regard to his birth (1806-1816 in Oswestry) either. His father and grandfather are almost 100% positive but no mother for him either.

So, if anybody is willing and able to help me out yet again, I would really appreciate finally solving this puzzle which has done absolutely nothing towards keeping my sanity. What little I have left  ;D

regards, TD (Saskia, Kya)


Haycock (Liverpool and Wolverhampton); Rosewell (Shepperton); Wales/Whales (Thanet, Kent); Daborn (Chobham, Horsell); Prince and Powell (Liverpool area); Maxted and She(e)pwashe (Kent); Milo/Millot (France, Holland, England); genealogical research project on links to ancient Frisian aristocracy (Hofstra-Fynia-Tania). Spending the remainder of my time trying to handle three teenagers ;o)

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:00 BST (UK) »
Could it be

Marriage
Jul/Aug/sep 1865
Wolverhampton ref 6b 679
John Haycock / one of brides on same page MaryAnn Whitgrove

(Ageing rellie may confuse Whitgrove with Whitehead/Whitehouse?)


I was wondering if he may be Mary(ia)'s son from a previous ,marriage that John took on.
But cant see a birth for George under Whitgrove either, so that theory is fallong apart
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:08 BST (UK) »
Hi lizdb  :D

Thank you for that very prompt answer!

A/ Why have I never seen that?!
B/ It really really REALLY sounds like it might be a hit! I will have to try and suss out more details on her, see whether either the name George pops up in her family or some of George's children's names ring a bell.

On George's service records his parents' names are written with a letter inbetween, and I can't for the life of me decide whether it's an 'm' or a 'u' or even something else. Mind having a go?

Kind regards, TD
Haycock (Liverpool and Wolverhampton); Rosewell (Shepperton); Wales/Whales (Thanet, Kent); Daborn (Chobham, Horsell); Prince and Powell (Liverpool area); Maxted and She(e)pwashe (Kent); Milo/Millot (France, Holland, England); genealogical research project on links to ancient Frisian aristocracy (Hofstra-Fynia-Tania). Spending the remainder of my time trying to handle three teenagers ;o)

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:10 BST (UK) »
I would say 'M'.

Can't yet find a suitable death for Mary[Maria] Ha[e]ycock 1865 - 1871.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn 1861 - 1868 [b 1808] lived Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY, PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON; Quebec [Montreal], O'DRISCOLL

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:12 BST (UK) »
Argh! Too bad ...

That record is for George's brother John (Thomas) Haycock's marriage to Emily Buckley *snif*
Just found my own note attached to it  :'(

And thanks for looking at the image josey  ;)
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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:21 BST (UK) »
If we are to consider George's birth,all things being equal,a birth on 24th of December 1862 is highly likely to have been registered in the Jan/Feb/Mar quarter of 1863.

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:25 BST (UK) »
Yes
But can we find it .............?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:30 BST (UK) »
FreeBMD has a birth of a George Whitehouse in 1st qtr 1863  6b   440 in Wolverhampton ?

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Edit - but the 1871 census lists him possibly still with the Whitehouse surname

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Re: Wolverhampton mystery ... who was George Haycock's mother?!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 July 13 18:32 BST (UK) »
There is only one for a George Haycock for that quarter registered in the Clun District of Shropshire.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk