Author Topic: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???  (Read 5702 times)

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 August 13 04:26 BST (UK) »
NSW is a different state to Victoria.

Here is Victorian BDM  http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/

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Each state NSW, VIC, WA, Queensland, Tasmania, South Australia, Northern Territory, A.C.T has its own BDM - very annoying  :( so ancestry is useful for searching across states.
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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 August 13 05:05 BST (UK) »
Gah!  I feel like such an idiot!  Of course!  And I did just notice that on a map the other day when trying to learn where Rochester is.  Y'know, I saw dot gov and in my haste to find something (anything!) I assumed it would include the whole country.
Ok, I'm slinking off to study up on your great country (and states and districts) :-[
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 August 13 05:16 BST (UK) »
Don't worry MegMS - we all get confused about another country's geography etc  ;D  That's why rootschat is so useful  :) :)

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 August 13 06:31 BST (UK) »
No need to pay to search records from Vic bdm.  Many of us have resources.  Just ask what you would like us to search for.

Only travelled through Rochester a few weeks ago :)

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 August 13 07:03 BST (UK) »
It may be helpful to ask Carole for a photo of this  headstone at Rochester Cemetery as well.
DOHERTY Thomas, William, Mary Ethel

Wm appears to have been a farmer at Rochester West.

DOHERTY William born Donegal
ROURKE Mary Theresa born Dandenong [this is Victoria]
1877 Reg#1780

Children born to Wm and Mary at Rochester

DOHERTY Elizabeth 1878 Reg#4822
DOHERTY Hannah  1880 Reg#4602
DOHERTY Mary Ethel 1881 Reg#25696
DOHERTY Hugh 1884 Reg#5081
DOHERTY William 1886 Reg#13397
DOHERTY Catherine Giles 1890 Reg#16921
DOHERTY Michael Thomas 1893  Reg#16566


Australian Electoral Roll
1903
DOHERTY Elizabeth  Rochester West  HD
DOHERTY Hannah Rochester West  HD
DOHERTY Mary Ethel  Rochester West  HD
DOHERTY Mary Teresa  Rochester West  HD

Will see what I can find on my resources. 

There is also some more about Patrick re transfers of land etc, hotel licences etc etc.

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
DOHERTY Grace Moore Street, Rochester  Shop Assistant
DOHERTY Kate Moore Street, Rochester  Shop Assistant
DOHERTY James Patrick  Moore Street, Rochester  Hotelkeeper  [Patrick's son]
DOHERTY Mary   Moore Street, Rochester  HD
DOHERTY Patrick  Moore Street, Rochester  Storekeeper

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 10 August 13 07:00 BST (UK) »
Wow!  You're good and you're fast, Cando; thank you!
Do you think any of your sources might include a townland birth location for Patrick and/or William Doherty?  Anything (besides same parents' names) to indicate they might have been brothers, though 17 years apart?
I wondered whether a death record would include birth townland?  I looked at Victoria bmd but they don't even show you the index entry unless they get $.99 and your credit card info! 
I searched the Trove site for an obit for William, but only the older one got a mention--the one who died in Wee Waa whose parents are Edward and Jane (not Michael and Hannah).
I feel on the edge of discovery here, but to make the connection, I need a sister Mary for these boys and much younger sisters or nieces for Hannah named Ann and Kate (sigh).  Plus, my Mary was said to have been born in England, but returned to Donegal ... 
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 10 August 13 07:55 BST (UK) »
Marriage notice for Patrick and  Mary Brennan - Patrick is eldest son of Mr Michael Doherty of County Donegal
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article113588652

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adding : http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article119589641 This obit to Patrick says he was born in Churchill 10 miles from Letterkenny and that he had 2 younger brothers William in West Rochester and Hugh in NSW
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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 11 August 13 04:44 BST (UK) »
When I saw "King of Rochester"  and Church Hill in the obit, I knew then that he was "ours!"  This is so exciting!  For at least 15 years I've been combing the internet to find anything about my ggmother's parents and this is the first clue; thank you so much!
So, he's likely a brother to my my gggmother Mary Doherty.  His mother was likely sister to William Gibbons, father of the women who took in my ggmother at  15.  She called them aunt, but technically they would have been first cousins once removed.  Maybe I'll find someone like you and Cando and JM in Donegal who can guide me to document the connections. ;D
And, my goodness, what a fine upstandin' fella he was, too! 
Really, this is wonderful!  Thank you all.  If there's any way I can help you, I'd be delighted!
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 11 August 13 05:46 BST (UK) »
Great news MegMS  :) :)  Pleasure to help.

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