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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 11 August 13 07:54 BST (UK) »
Patrick arrived as an unassisted immigrant on the SHALIMAR Nov 1862
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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 11 August 13 10:13 BST (UK) »
I guess you found brother Hugh Doherty's death in Narrandera, NSW with parents Michael and Hannah in 1914.

He married in 1898 in Victoria to Eliza (Elizabeth) Fitzgibbon
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article89467448

MARRIAGE.
Doherty—FitzGibbon.—On the 7th February, at St. Kilian's Church, Bendigo, by the Rev.
Father Moore, Hugh Doherty, of New South Wales (brother of Mr. P. Doherty, of Rochester),
to E., daughter of Mr. J. FitzGibbon, of Axe Creek. Rochester papers please copy.

Then there are a number of births to Hugh and Eliza or Elizabeth in Narrandera, NSW
  1899 Joseph M
  1902 Hugh and Hannah (twins I think - adjacent registration numbers)
  1903 Mary A
  1906 William J
 
cheers,
   Ros
adding : obit to Eliza - wife of Hugh http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101246526

and a small obit to Hugh http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article108152954
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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 13 August 13 02:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Cando and Ros!
Hugh's arrival there in 1890 means that he could be the uncle Hugh my ggmother remembered and said my father reminded her of. He left after she did.  I hope for Hannah's sake that Hugh was the youngest-- she bore Patrick in 1832 and Hugh in 1855; that's a long stretch.  It also indicates there may be many children (more than just William and, I'm hoping, my Mary) in between.
I cannot find them in Ireland!  or England or Scotland, on Family Search, ancestry, Donegal Resources or this new Irelandxo. Not birth, marriage or death or census abstracts.  Grr!
I wonder why, since Patrick and his brothers did so well for themselves, they didn't offer to take my ggmother.  She came to USA to live with people who must have been strangers to her.  Certainly Patrick could have afforded to send enough to keep her and her sisters for the few years until they married.
My ggmother corresponded regularly with her sister Mary but neither kept the letters.  I wonder if they also corresponded with their relatives in Australia and whether any letters survive.
It's wonderful to have all this on these three guys! 
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13 August 13 03:38 BST (UK) »
This seems to be Hugh's grave (he died Dec 31 1914) which indicates he was born in 1845  ???

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=DO&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=15&GSsr=841&GRid=76565348&

The obit was hard to read - perhaps age was 69 ...?

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 13 August 13 23:36 BST (UK) »
Hmm; odd.  That makes him 53 at his marriage; 45 when he arrived.  The ancestry version of the death record does not give a birth year; though it does for the Hugh Doherty who died in Nov. 1913-- he was born about 1845.  Our Hugh's death was registered in Narrandera, NSW.  The other fella died and was registered in Bairnsdale, Victoria.  Unless the findagrave data enterer got confused, I have to assume the newspaper reporter messed up his math by 10 years.  The paper says 60 for sure, I zoomed right in.  Well, I'm relieved on Hannah's behalf, anyway.  Maybe William was her last in 1849. ;)
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 03 August 17 12:59 BST (UK) »
I am not sure what to say - but I have read through the comments and I believe that the Michael Doherty and Hanna Gibbons discussed are the grandparents of my grandfather.  My grandfather was Hugh Doherty  - twin with Hannah Norah Doherty  B: 4/5/1902 
I am trying to trace my family history and am working on my grandfathers side.  Anything you can share would be great and I would be happy to do the same.
Nols

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 03 August 17 22:30 BST (UK) »
Hi, Noleen!
Sadly, what you've read in these 4 pages of comments is all I know.  I have not been able to establish that Michael and Hannah Gibbons Doherty had a daughter Mary, much less whether if they had, it was my gggmother.  The circumstantial evidence is compelling-- the clipping of the "Lumber King" article being still in family possession, the fact that my ggmother, Annie Callahan was sent to America to live with Gibbons sisters, that Annie's sister was named Hannah; and I can't remember how I traced it now, but the 1901 census has a Michael Doherty living in Tirargus with a nephew visiting named Henry who was the right age to be Annie's sister Mary's son, and somehow I did connect Michael with parents Michael and Hannah but I can't recall now how I did that.  Tirargus was the home townland of Annie's sisters Mary and Bridget when they married in 1892 or so.  Annie told my aunt that her mother (Mary) was born in England, but I have nothing at all to support that.  I cannot find a marriage cert for Mary Doherty and James Callahan, or birth records for Annie or Mary Callahan. 
I'm excited to hear from you.  I hope we can work together to make a connection!
Meg
Main focus: Callahan, Doherty, Gibbons, all probably Donegal
Also McHugh, O'Leary, Perry, Kenney, Roche, Schubert

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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 03 August 17 23:28 BST (UK) »
Here is a longer obit to Hugh DOHERTY who died in 1914 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141941233
and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article108152954

And a touching memoriam notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141841191

Ros

adding : an obit to Eliza, Hugh's wife
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101246526

an obit to Hannah Nora RUSSELL - a daughter http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article101633525
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Re: DOHERTY "Lumber King of Rochester" ???
« Reply #35 on: Friday 04 August 17 00:10 BST (UK) »
 ;D
That is a great obituary.
Entire family network of Hannah Nora RUSSELL all nicely laid out for the future researcher ;D
Sue
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