Mrs S.F. Scroope and Mrs J. Miley

[george kildare]

I have just seen this posting.

As their son, I can confirm that the tennis players in question were indeed John Felix Miley and Mary Josephine Miley. My father was a barrister and expert on town planning law. He was normally called "Jack", captained the Davis Cup Team and was a President of Fitzwilliam Tennis Club. My mother was normally called Una and was Una Minch before she was married. My father together with his brother Val won the Irish Open doubles championship and played at Wimbledon, but in those days tennis was of course an amateur sport, much less demanding than the tennis of now.

Their days of tennis "glory" happened before I was born in 1942.

[myluck!]

Hello George Kildare
I am sure Newmark401 will be thrilled with confirmation of these details
From what I can gather many of the early tennis records show only initials for first names which can be confusing for married women where this may be either that of the husband or their own
Thank you for the update

[george kildare]

I can't seem to be able to reply to the personal message about the relevant dates of birth of my father and uncle that I received from Newmark401. I don't seem to have permission to send personal messages.


I don't have the exact dates, only the years. My father, John Felix Miley (Jack) was born in 1886 and died in December 1966. My mother Mary Josephine Minch (Una) was born in 1900 and died in 1974. My uncle Val (Valentine Miley) was 2 years younger than my father, so he must have been born in 1888.

[myluck!]

George Kildare
You can only send and receive personal messages on rootschat once you have posted three times;
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FYI
If you look back at page one I put in civil references for the birth of
your father John Felix in 1886 Dublin South Q3 V2 P590 d.1966
and his brother Valentine William in 1888 Dublin South Q3 V2 P560 d.1959

Their parents were Daniel O'Connell MILEY and Elizabeth Eleanor ?
Elizabeth's surname would be shown on the birth certs of John and Valentine
They possibly married in Paddingtion England in 1885 Civil Reference Q3 V1a P137

Link to them on the 1901 census at house 2 in Longford Terrace (incl. part of Clifton Avenue) (Kingstown, Dublin)
and on the 1911 census at house 11 in Foxrock, Part of (Stillorgan, Dublin) with John and Valentine in residence

I also made brief reference to Mary Josephine or Una as known to you

Her parents were Matthew J MINCH and Elizabeth Mary O'KELLY
They married on Feb 10 1897 Civil Reference Dublin South Q1 V2 P724
Matthew's father is given as Matthew; Elizabeth's father is given as Festus O'KELLY from Gallagh, Tuam, Co. Galway

MINCH family on 1901 census and 1911 census returns

Matthew and Elizabeth had three children
1897 Mary Josephine
1899 Cornelius Denis
1908 Gerald

Matthew had been previously married to Agnes HAYDON of Cardington in 1884
they had at least 8 children
1885 Anna Maria
1886 Margaret Mary
1887 Matthew Patrick
1889 Kathleen
1890 John Berkman
1892 Eugene Francis
1893 Sydney
1894 William Joseph

[george kildare]

Very many thanks for this my luck. My grandmother's maiden name was Elisabeth Eleanor Rosenthal.

[myluck!]

You're welcome!

[george kildare]

John Felix Miley and Jack Miley are the same. He was a Senior Counsel, legal advisor to the Department of Local Government and expert on town planning. He captained the Irish Davis Cup team, played at Wimbledon and was Irish Doubles tennis champion with his brother Val at Fitzwilliam.

He was indeed married to Mary Josephine (Una) Minch, who was also a tennis player and sportswoman. They lived for most of their married life at 49 Ailesbury Road.

I am George Miley, their son, born in 1942.

[george kildare]

I just saw this web page.

John Felix Miley, alias Jack Miley was my father. Mary Josephine Miley nee Minch (Una) was my mother and were both champion tennis players before I was born in March 1942.

Jack was a barrister (Senior Counsel), legal advisor to the Department of Local Government and expert on town planning law. He died in 1966.

George Kildare Miley