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1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« on: Wednesday 28 August 13 07:46 BST (UK) »
Hello,

1841
Piece 465  Folio 2  Page 25
Civil Parish: Alloa
Ciunty: Clackmannanshire
ED: 4
Address: Broad Street
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks   
FLOCKHART James  M    25    Merchant     Outside Census County           
FLOCKHART Elizabeth F  25        Clackmannanshire           
FLOCKHART John    M       4        Clackmannanshire           
FLOCKHART Margaret  F   2        Clackmannanshire           
FLOCKHART James   M   6m        Clackmannanshire           
LINDSAY Elizabeth  F 15 Female Servant Clackmannanshire

I'd like a look up please for the family in 1851.

Thanks,

Fred

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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 08:25 BST (UK) »
Sorry no luck

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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 09:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

I see that Elizabeth was probably Elizabeth Keltie, who married James Flockhart in Alloa 25 July 1835 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTLL-J8M

In 1851, the family appears to be split up.  Andrew Flockhart (b. Alloa,  14 August 1843) is with  Uncle John Keltie, in Shore, Alloa. Also there is nephew John Flockhart, 13, b. Glasgow but not sure if it's the John in the 1841.

There is also a tempting entry on the 1851 and 1861 of an Elizabeth Flockhart and daughter Margaret Flockhart in Dunning, Perthshire but these are not the pair - this Elisabeth was m.s. Crawford, who married a John Flockhart.


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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 09:52 BST (UK) »
A few online trees show James dying in 1857 and Elizabeth dying before 1847. I've not checked the info as yet.

You can check this via Mundia.com

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Added -James supposedly marrying an Elizabeth Anderson in 1847.
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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 09:57 BST (UK) »
Maybe James Flockheart died before 1851? There is an entry, an inventory, in the Wills & Testament section of Scotlands People for a James Flockheart, grocer from Alloa. A date is quoted of 4 June 1852. No indication what the date refers to.

There is another online tree which includes a possible death cert which shows:

1903 May Twenty-eighth 5h 8m PM
Govan Poorhouse (Former Residence 197 South Wellington Sreet, Glasgow) - Elizabeth Tyrie F 84 (Widow of 1st James Flockhart, Grocer 2nd Charles Batchen, Lithographic Printer 3rd John Boyd, Hairdresser, 4th George Tyrie, Slater - parents: Alexander Anderson, Postman (d) & Janet Anderson M.S. Kelly - Cardiac Disease & Bronchitis - informant: Elizabeth Madden, Daughter 9 Warwick Street, Glasgow


A George Batchen and an Elizabeth Anderson show as having a child here https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQBF-T3X

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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 10:01 BST (UK) »
I've just found an entry in the 1851, Alloa, for an Elizabeth Flockhart, 31, grocer, b. Linlithgow(shire). Could this be the possible second wife?
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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 10:04 BST (UK) »
I think there were two wives, both Elizabeth for James Flockheart: Elizabeth Keltie, mother to the children showing in 1841:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKQ-2Q8
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKZ-JJF
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKC-BF7

Can't easily see children from the likely second marriage.

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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 11:09 BST (UK) »

I've just found an entry in the 1851, Alloa, for an Elizabeth Flockhart, 31, grocer, b. Linlithgow(shire). Could this be the possible second wife?

Just had a look on the 1851 image - it's very poor on SP but, after enhancing, her condition looks very much like 'widow'. James possibly died before then but the inventory was prepared later  (he seemed to have lots of creditors).

It might be worth looking for MI.


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Re: 1851 census lookup - FLOCKHART family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 August 13 11:13 BST (UK) »
Also , one of the Trees has Elizabeth Anderson/Flockhart marrying Charles Batcham in August 1851, so assume that James was dead by then.

A son, Charles Batcham, died in 1857 - so wonder if the 1857 date for James came from that  :-\


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