Masons of Whitechapel

[wingtuns20]

Thanks for the update!

[wingtuns20]

It appears the below.

There is a burial at St Mary's Whitechapel, 20 May 1827, of a Robert William Mason, age 54 , of Castle Alley.
now that is the addrress on the christenings the previous years.

He was possibly born 1773.?

[wingtuns20]

Robert Hunt Mason
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   25 September 1737   St. Mary Spital Square Church, Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England
residence:      Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England
father:   Thomas Mason
mother:   Rebekah
Name   Robert Hunt Mason
Gender   Male
Christening Date   25 Sep 1737
Christening Place   St. Mary Spital Square Church, Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England
Birth Date   
Birthplace   
Death Date   
Name Note   
Race   
Father's Name   Thomas Mason
Father's Birthplace   
Father's Age   
Mother's Name   Rebekah
Mother's Birthplace   
Mother's Age   
Indexing Project (Batch) Number   I00983-7
System Origin   England-EASy
GS Film number   597794
Reference ID   bk 1

[lizdb]

Not quite following!

We got as far as Robert William, bn 1773 unknown where, dying 1827 - who was living at the same address as your ancestor Robert George. We suggested this was possibly RG's father - but as yet there is no evidence to support this.  He could either be father of RG (bn1819) if he had his children later in life and if the middle name was wrong (RG's father was another RG) Or he could POSSIBLY be RG(1819) 's grandfather. I.e the father of the  RG we know nothing about. But we dont know. He could have been an uncle for example - the father of thge RG we know nothing about could be something else, but he had a brother called Robert William, for example.

So .... Not sure how this Robert Hunt Mason bn 1737 fits in!  (Just a warning - this looks like it has been copied and pasted from another site. That isnt allowed, we need to type out the relevant info ourselves)

You need to work methodically one step at a time.
At the moment you need to find out a bout Robert G's dad. All we know is that he had a wife Mary at some time, and christened 4 children, first in Aldgate and others in Whitechapel between 1819 and 1826, and he was a gunmaker living in Castle Alley.
Until we find his parents, we cant move on. As I said, his Dad might not be a Robert at all - even if they kept using that name, he might be a younger son and it might be his older brother who got the name Robert!

As you get further back it is always harder, and may take years and years of searching, piecing bits together, etc, before you can be sure you have the right person. Also, what is on the internet is limited. It is a great tool, but is not exhaustive - so if you rely on what is there you may well miss the correct person and go off on a wrong line.

Areas you could look at, to try and find more, are directories, or wills (pre 1858 can be trricky, try National Archives site)

[wingtuns20]

Thanks for the info all noted. it is tricky as there is alot of Masons around that time?

[lizdb]

Not an unusual name.
And if RG wasnt born locally, but moved to London from elsewhere, then there are millions around!

[lizdb]

Just spotted this
Just wondered if he might possibly be the Robert George, father of Robert George, Edward, Joseph and Alice

But then I remembered that one was dead by 1845 (Alice's marriage) so it cant be

But I'll pst it anyway - another Robert George Mason in Whitechapel for you! Will need lots of research to see if he is linked or not.

DeathJan/Feb/Mar 1873
Whitechapel 1c 253
Robert George Mason age 75

[lizdb]

Not looking like him
Seems to be married to a Sarah in prev censuses, which takes us to a marriage in 1823 in Stepney to Sarah Hammersley, when he was a bachelor. So not the one christening children around that time with the wife Mary.

[wingtuns20]

Be good if this was connected.......


ID: I6402
Name: Robert MASON
Sex: M
Birth: 7 APR 1757 in Stepney, White Chapel, London, England
Death: 25 SEP 1849 in Bell County Kentucky
Burial: Mason Cemetery, Bell County, Kentucky
Occupation: Gunsmith
Note: Betsy Mason's father was Robert Mason, who was born in England. Robert Mason was one of the brave Patriots who fought
Note: against Great Britian to help the New England colonists during the Revolutionary War.
Note:
Note: Robert Mason was born in Stepney Parish near St. Mary White Chapel, the poorest section in London, on April 7, 1757.
Note: The area was made famous in the 1800s because of the murders of Jack the Ripper.
Note:
Note: Some sources have his death and burial as: 25 Sep 1849, Clear Creek, Knox Co., KY
Note: br. Mason Cem., Clear Creek, Knox Co.
Note:
Note: In 1775 Mason left home and boarded a ship called the Adventurer as an Indentured Servant along with two other young
Note: men from Stepney. These two lads were William EVANS, age 19; and John COLLINS, age 25. It is very possible that all
Note: three young men were related. All were indentured to sponsers in America to repay their passage aboard ship. It is
Note: interesting to note that Robert was listed as being a gunsmith; there was a large arms factory in Stepney at the time.
Note: John COLLINS was a carpenter, while William EVANS was a gardener. Upon his arrival in Virginia, Robert served his
Note: indenture in Hampshire county--now located in West Virginia. . Upon arrival in Virginia, Mason moved to Hampshire
Note: County Virginia to begin his work as an Indentured servant for the next 3 years.
Note:
Note: After finishing his indenture, Mason joined the Virginia 11th regiment under the command of Col. Buford in 1779. On May
Note: 29, 1780, Mason participated in the battle of Waxhaw near Buford SC.
Note:
Note: At Kings Mountain five months later, over 300 Tories were killed mostly after the British surrendered in response to
Note: what happened at the battle of Waxhaw.
Note: Mason barely escaped with his life. This would be the last battle he would participate in. He was discharged in 1780.
Note:
Note: A few lines from his own words - enlisted Jan. or Feb. 1779 ; 11th Reg. Virgina ; Col. Abraham Buford ; Cap. Andrew
Note: Wallace (who had a brother named Adam); Lt. Marks ; John Proctor, Orderly Sgt. "in the spring marched to Charlotte,
Note: Mecklenburgh, Camden, & Santee. Col. Washington crossed the Santee overtaken by British under Tarleton; battle ensued;
Note: fought May, 29, 1780"
Note:
Note: In 1783, Mason met Mary King and married her later that year. They would have 9 children from this union.
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Note: On April 25, 1849, Mason died at the age of 92. Before he died he presented his sons the land on the promise they would
Note: take care of Mary, his wife. He also had one final request. He wanted to be buried in the cellar of his home. Mason’s
Note: home stood at the present day site of the Mason family cemetery. A gravestone now marks the spot where Mason was
Note: buried.
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Note: For years, Mason was not approved as a patriot because he had lost his discharge papers some 50 years before and was
Note: unable to receive a pension because of this.
Note: In 1995 Descendents of Robert Mason proved he was a patriot by showing that Mason knew all the names of the soldiers in
Note: Buford’s company something he couldn’t have done if he hadn’t been there, and did a DAR graveside service for him to
Note: honor him as a patriot. In 2005, the General Joseph Martin SAR chapter honored him with a SAR graveside service to
Note: honor him as a patriot as well. In 2006, DAR again refused to accept Mason as a Patriot because he had been turned
Note: down by the pension board because he couldn’t find his discharge papers. Descendents of Robert Mason have taken the DAR
Note: society to court in hopes of getting this decision overturned.
Note: http://www.josephmartinchapter.org/mason.html