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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 September 13 12:20 BST (UK) »
He didn't die as a result of the war.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1

He has a normal death index.

Deaths Mar 1942   

Perry    Charles F    age 67    Portsmouth    2b   1205
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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 September 13 12:36 BST (UK) »
He didn't die as a result of the war.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1

He has a normal death index.

Deaths Mar 1942   

Perry    Charles F    age 67    Portsmouth    2b   1205

ok thanks carol, would he have not had a normal index if he'd died as a civilian then?

the other good thing about link is his son of the same name doesn't appear in the 1st or 2nd world war deaths so i might have some more family to trace.

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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 07 September 13 12:49 BST (UK) »
I'm not 100% sure but I think they were only down as war dead?
I know that soldiers are not listed int he usual death indexes.
Maybe someone will come along soon with more knowledge of that.

I suppose the only way to be sure would be to buy the death cert for £9-25 from the GRO.

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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 07 September 13 13:38 BST (UK) »
i've found charles wife's probate, she died at the same address in portsmouth about a year later and probate was to her son charles fred perry a railway guard.  Firstly i know the son is still alive in 1943, secondly he would have been 18 a few months before the end of ww1 so there may be something for that, also there may be railway employment records.  I could probably get his address off the will.
Updated: i could find nothing on his railway employment on ancestry, but there was a brief RNVR naval record (in wales) for the last few months of ww1 though obviously he spent most of it training if not all of it. had his personal details but no addresses  :(

after 1911 would there have been anything that listed peoples addresses or would it have been business directories, i'm thinking more of the parents who may have lived in various places in portsmouth for 30 years after the last census.

also as they both died in portsmouth, is the llandudno probate office likely to be because of the war, moving official docs out of the way?

appreciate any help thanks
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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 07 September 13 14:37 BST (UK) »

also as they both died in portsmouth, is the llandudno probate office likely to be because of the war, moving official docs out of the way?

appreciate any help thanks

Now THAT I do know the answer to.......yes  ;D ;D ;D

They moved it back to London in 1946 apparently.
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Re: missing married couple
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 07 September 13 15:58 BST (UK) »
me again lol

i've gone back to try and find the 1901 for fanny e perry (i believe fanny ellen perry 1872).
i have found an iffy one on a census that looks like helen perry, in trying to check it i've gone on to the 1911c and found another one which i'd like to rule in or out.

fanny helen sybil perry 35 widow 1 child bn & living, children's nurse domestic, bn salisbury. patient in dorset county hospital

i've tried a variation of searches both for bmd's and come up blank. In terms of the widow thing i suppose she could have made that up if she had an illeg child.  The sybil could be reference to a former spouse perhaps?  Can you help pinpoint who this person is?

appreciate any help thanks
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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 07 September 13 21:04 BST (UK) »
me again lol

i've gone back to try and find the 1901 for fanny e perry (i believe fanny ellen perry 1872).
i have found an iffy one on a census that looks like helen perry, in trying to check it i've gone on to the 1911c and found another one which i'd like to rule in or out.

fanny helen sybil perry 35 widow 1 child bn & living, children's nurse domestic, bn salisbury. patient in dorset county hospital

i've tried a variation of searches both for bmd's and come up blank. In terms of the widow thing i suppose she could have made that up if she had an illeg child.  The sybil could be reference to a former spouse perhaps?  Can you help pinpoint who this person is?

appreciate any help thanks

just to totally throw a spanner in the works, on lds they have two christening indexes for fanny ellen perry to walter and fanny, but one says buried 23 jan 1873, within a month or so of birth.  i've had a look around for death indexes to match with no luck, and with no other births indexed, who is that fanny perry in the skeates household? 
Could one of the lds records be wrong?

appreciate any help thanks
Perry- wilts, sussex and hants
Bonieface- sussex
Maslen- Wilts
Barnett- Hants