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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #27 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:08 BST (UK) »
I sent for a birth certificate under Eileen W. Haydon with the birth date I had.  Not sure exactly when she came to the US.  Her passport listed her name that way.  I think mom and dad married in 1947.  I'll have to check.  Her first stop in US was New York.  I know she was a window dresser at Macy's for a while.  Traveled to France and Trinidad before then.  I found a census in London under Eileen Haydon.  She would have been 16 or so when she moved there.  I always thought she must have run away from the family she was placed with.  She said she worked in a hotel in London where the servicemen passed through on the way to the front.  She described a lot of local haunts they went to in detail so I do feel she was there for a time. 

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #28 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:14 BST (UK) »
The voting age in England was 21 until 1971,then it was lowered to 18.
So no one would appear on an electoral roll until they reached 21.

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #29 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:15 BST (UK) »
  Children of Pinches-Prior:  Gertrude b.1916 and twins Henry and Joseph both birth and death Dec 1918 Walsall - the twins mentioned?


I hadn't even bothered looking for the twins birth/deaths as the OP said they were stillborn- they weren't if they were registered,they lived ,even for a short time.

Still births were not registered till 1927 and even then the indexes are not open for public viewing.


Yet another coincidence  - the fact that there were older twins!
And the Gertrude M  died  Jun 1919, age 2. So before Eileen was born.

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #30 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:17 BST (UK) »
  I found a census in London under Eileen Haydon. 

The latest available UK census is 1911, and she wasnt born then! So I dont think it was a census you found  :)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #31 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:20 BST (UK) »
Dionysus, if mom had a son, John E. Haydon, is he still alive?  could I have a brother???/

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #32 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:22 BST (UK) »
the census was 1936 - 1939 London when Mom would have been 16 or so.

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #33 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:23 BST (UK) »
I sent for a birth certificate under Eileen W. Haydon with the birth date I had. 

But there isnt one ..... See Carols reply at 14:51, Carol listed all Eileen W's born in that quarter. No Haydon.

Do you not agree that it seems highlt likely she was born Eileen Pinches, and had a brief marriage to Edward Haydon before moving to London and then US?
All the evidence points that way - coupled with no evidence for a Haydon birth, nor for existance of a James and Gertrude Haydon of right sort of ages and deaths.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #34 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:23 BST (UK) »
the census was 1936 - 1939 London when Mom would have been 16 or so.

It's not her then,as I said you had to be 21 to be on an electoral roll- wasn't a census,last one that was released here was the 1911.
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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #35 on: Monday 09 September 13 15:27 BST (UK) »
Liz you're right that the evidence is pointing to her being a Pinches.  If she had two children and one died early she may have just run, but I can't see her leaving one behind.  She was a fabulous mother.  When did Gertrude and James Pinches die?