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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 September 13 08:36 BST (UK) »
Sorry if this is an obviois question - but was Haydon definitely Elieens's maiden name, and not her married name?

The only birth reg for an Eileen W, in Jul/Aug/Sep 1921 is for an :
Eileen W Pinches, Jul/Aug/Sep1921, Walsall ref 6b 1441

Then there is a marriage:
Jul/Aug/Sep 1941 Walsall ref 6b 1947
Eileen M Pinches / Edward J Haydon

There is a marriage oct/Nov/Dec 1909, Walsall ref 6b 1312 for James Henry Pinches, one of possible brides is Gertrude Prior
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 September 13 08:41 BST (UK) »
Deaths

March 1927
James H Pinches   age 43
Birmingham north ref 6d 596

March 1936
Gertrude Pinches age 53
Walsall ref 6b 814

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 September 13 08:45 BST (UK) »
Probate index entry

James Henry Pinches of 65 Tong Street, Walsall, Staffs died 10 Jan 1927 at the General Hospital Birmingham.Administration Birmingham 17 Oct 1930 to Gertrude Pinches widow Effects £20


So, there was no will (admin, not probate)

Cant see a probate index entry for Gertrude


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 September 13 12:07 BST (UK) »
That's an interesting find Liz.
James did marry Gertrude as they are living with her parents in 1911.
They had 4 children in all with Eileen W being the last one.
The death dates may be coincidence but if they are it's extraordinary.

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 September 13 13:43 BST (UK) »
thank you all so much for your help.  You're very kind to do this.  The few records I have of mom's spell her name Haydon.  Her middle name was Winifred.  She said both her parents names were Haydon so I assume they were married.  They must have had some money because Grandmother never worked after grandfather died and they stayed in the same house.  They were Catholic so I assume it's St. Mary's on the Mount.  I've written to them but they didn't reply.  Mom described her father's picture (her only memory of him) and never mentioned him being older than her mom.  I think they both died very young.  Grandpa of bleeding ulcers and grandma of breast cancer.  When grandma died, mom was placed with a family by the church and she had no idea what became of any of their property/pictures.  She was left with nothing.  I may have found a record of her in London because I know she was there during the blitz.  From there she traveled half way around the world by herself on a freighter ship until she came to the US and met Dad.  I've sent away for her birth certificate and paid the fee.  Hope something shows up.  Again, you are all very kind to help.  Kindest regards.

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 September 13 13:47 BST (UK) »
Mom also said she was an only child.  Her mother gave birth to stillborn twins before her.  Mom said she received an inheritance (I assume she was 18).  That's when she started traveling.  Went to France, was an artist on the west bank and blew all the money on Chanel clothing.  I do have some pictures of her there in her Chanel dress.

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 September 13 13:52 BST (UK) »
.  I've sent away for her birth certificate and paid the fee. 

Did you find a birth registration under Haydon then?

Did you not think the Pinches saga ticked all the boxes?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 September 13 14:00 BST (UK) »


The only birth reg for an Eileen W, in Jul/Aug/Sep 1921 is for an :
Eileen W Pinches, Jul/Aug/Sep1921, Walsall ref 6b 1441

I couldnt see a birth reg for an Eileen W Haydon in the right quarter.
And Eileen Pinches parents are James and Gertrude! (Who each died in tbe years you said Eileens parents died in)

Too many coincidences?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: burial records in Walsall England
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 September 13 14:11 BST (UK) »
That is so odd.  I wonder if Haydon was the name of the people who took her in.  She disliked them so badly I just don't think she would have kept their name.  I tried to get her to write about her life but she wouldn't do it.  It was too hard for her. I'll let you know if I get the birth certificate I sent for.  Can you tell me the most likely cemeteries to check when I get to Walsall?  Do they keep lists of those interred there?  If nothing else I'll visit every Willow street I can find and go to the church where she attended.