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William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for some pointers please.

Whilst helping a friend with some family research, I came across a Death Notice in the Glasgow Herald Newspaper (of January 25th 1909) as follows:

"Paul. At Palmerston, Otago, New Zealand, on the 16th December 1908, William Paul (late of Drumbeg, Killearn, Stirlingshire), in his 80th year."

I then found an 'In Memoriam' notice in the Otago Daily Times, Issue 17809, 16th December 1919:

"Paul. In fond and loving memory of William Paul, who died at Palmerston South, December 16th 1908. Inserted by his loving grand-daughter, Jean E. Cook."

On the BMD Online site, I found his death (my friend is about to purchase the certificate).

We would like to find out more about William's life in NZ if possible and also about his descendants but haven't a clue how to go about searching NZ records, so any suggestions gratefully received.

Additionally, are there any online burial/cemetery records for the immediate area we could search?

Thanks for reading, I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Anne  :)




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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne,

Can you confirm that he was born in Scotland? There is a man of that name born in 1832 in Ireland who fought in the New Zealand Wars.

In 1876/77 a William PAUL appeared on the Bruce electoral roll (Otago) living at Helensbrook.

In 1877 a William PAUL appeared on the Roslyn electoral roll (Otago) living at Caversham.

There's an 1882 school record for a child named William PAUL born in 1875 being admitted to Palmerston School: father also named William PAUL. Their address was 'Palmerston.'

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HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:28 BST (UK) »
...also an identical school record for a Robert George PAUL, born 1876.

I suspect the William Paul on the electoral rolls above is a different individual, there was also a namesake living at New Plymouth.
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Spades,

Many thanks for your speedy reply!

Yes, William was definately born in Scotland.

The entry of 16th February 1830 the Killearn OPR's reads:

"William, lawful son of John Paul, farmer in Cariston and Margaret Moir his spouse was born 16th February last and baptised 7th March thereafter."

In the 1841 & 1851 Census Returns the family are recorded at Drumbeg Farm, Killearn.

Anne  :)


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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:39 BST (UK) »

On the BMD Online site, I found his death (my friend is about to purchase the certificate).


Hello Anne

Just in case your friend has not yet purchased the "certificate"  .... our recommendation here in NZ, is that the printout of the death record be purchased - (rather than a certificate).  [A printout is a copy of the actual register entry and contains the maximum amount of information available ...  happily it is also a less expensive option than a cert.]  ;)

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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for that info Lu.

 I'll let him know asap.

Anne  :)

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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne

At PapersPast  >   death and funeral notices, which indicate William had a wife named Elizabeth, and that he was to be buried at the Palmerston (Otago) Cemetery.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Otago Daily Times" - 17 December 1908

- Death Notice on page 6
- Funeral Notice ~  page 6, column 3

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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:49 BST (UK) »
Fantastic!!

Thank you!

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Re: William Paul, Scotland to New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 September 13 22:51 BST (UK) »
Possible New Zealand Marriage ?

William PAUL -- Elizabeth PORTER -- 1863

Unfortunately our online BDM indexes, don't give "places of events".   I'll do some further digging though to see if above is likely to be "your man".

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