Sale Family Denbighshire

[wrjones]

Richard Sale is given in the 1851 Census in Cefn Mawr Denbighshire as born in Bilston? Staffordshire in c 1775 and his wife Elizabeth is given as born in Wrexham Denbighshire in c 1788.
HO107/2503/161/18.

In 1861 a possible son Francis Sale given as born in Cefn Mawr Denbighshire in 1826 is living with his wife Elizabeth,given as born in Cefn Mawr Denbighshire in c 1828 are living again in Cefn Mawr Denbighshire.
RG09/4281/56/5.

Despite my best efforts I'm unable to find a marriage for Richard and Elizabeth Sale or Francis and Elizabeth Sale.

Any help in finding any of the marriages will be greatly appreciated.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Kay99]

Did they have a child Margaret born 1827 and baptised in Wrexham in 1827?   On Family Search there is one listed with parents Richard Sale and Elizabeth Williams  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1RR-KZZ

Kay

[mosiefish]

There is a Francis Seale marriage in 1847 registered  September qtr Wrexham.
Northwalesbmd has it as St Marys,  Ruabon and one of the possible spouses was Elizabeth Jones.

Mo

[wrjones]

Thanks Kay and Mo for your replies.

Well Kay remembering that the surname Sale was included in the Blackwell Index of Non Conformist Baptisms in Denbighshire,a CD I purchased from Clwyd FHS,I've just been looking at the baptism of Margaret Sale!

Well Mo I should have remembered to use Soundex when looking for entries on Ancestry!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Kay99]

There is also a marriage of a Margaret Sale to Samuel Cartwright both of full age in 15 Aug 1846  at Ruabon with her home listed as Cefn Mawr and father listed as Richard Sale - Potter. 

One of the witnesses was Francis Sale

Kay

[wilcoxon]

Jill Rose has these.
386 Ruabon: 17 Feb 1844 mar. by Banns of Thomas SALE (mason) ba. of Cefn Mawr s/o Richard (potter)  & Frances WILLIAMS (x) (servant) sp. of Cefn Mawr d/o Edward (collier)

 416 Ruabon: 11 Feb 1885 mar. by Banns of Richard SALE (forgeman) ba/25 of Cefn Mawr s/o Cecil SALE (forgeman)  & Mary Ann JONES sp/20 of Cefn Mawr d/o William JONES (collier)

386 Ruabon: 11 Sep 1847 mar. by Banns of Francis SEALE (x) (puddler) ba. of Cefn Mawr s/o Richard (potter)  & Elizabeth JONES (x) (in service) sp. of Cefn Mawr d/o William (collier)

[wrjones]

Thanks,the Cartwright family of the Samuel that Margaret Sale married may be the subject of another posting by me on the Shropshire Board in due course.

I am increasingly interested though in the family of the Elizabeth Jones who married Francis Sale giving me strong reasons yet again to bemoan the loss of the 1841 Census in the area.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Kay99]

Sorry - to help you with Samuel Cartwright I should have mentioned that his father is listed as John Cartwright Labourer and the other witness was Elizabeth Jones

Kay

[wilcoxon]

Perhaps witnesses at Francis and Elizabeth's marriage may give a clue.