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William Wild - 1841 and 1851 census lookup please
« on: Saturday 12 October 13 00:09 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I have a fair amount of information on my GGG-Grandfather later in his life, but not alot about his early life.
 
He is quite consistent with his age on the census' - in 1861 he is 36 and 1871 he is 46. He is always listed as a Plumber and always gives his place of birth as Wolverhampton.

I'm not 100% about this, but I think he marries Mary Ann Serginson in 1845 in Manchester.

They live at 21 Islington Street, Altrincham in 1861 and 41 Trafford Street, Castleton, Rochdale in 1871.

I have no record of William in 1851. If Mary Ann was his wife, I do have her at her mother's in Lambeth, London in 1851. Married but minus a husband. Where ever is William?

Seeing as how my first real evidence of William is in Altrincham in 1861, I looked at possible William Wild's living in Altrincham in 1841.
I have found a good match.
Am I right in thinking on the '41 census that place of birth isn't recorded?

Still would like to see who this William Wild aged 15 is living with.

Thanks

Jonathan

Sorry I just realised after I posted that only sort of looking for information in regards to Staffordshire. The truth is I don't know where he is. Could be still in his home town of Wolverhampton.
Hope thats ok, feel free to move it to the Cheshire board if needs be.
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: William Wild - 1841 and 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 October 13 00:33 BST (UK) »
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I'm not 100% about this, but I think he marries Mary Ann Serginson in 1845 in Manchester.

You need to confirm that marriage before proceeding further back.  A copy of one of the childrens birth certs will confirm Mary's maiden name and then the marriage cert will give William's fathers name and occupation

Births March qtr 1858

Thomas Wild   Altrincham  8a 156
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Re: William Wild - 1841 and 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 October 13 00:41 BST (UK) »
In 1861 the surname is spelt Wilde and eldest child is 9yrs old which does not tie in with an 1845 marriage

There are a number of William Wilde marriages which include a Mary/Mary Ann on the same page (eg) 1849 to Mary Ann Hill

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Re: William Wild - 1841 and 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 October 13 00:59 BST (UK) »
Hi

Presuming  47813 is correct, here are the marriage details

17 Aug. 1845 Manchester Cathedral after Banns

William Wild full bachelor plumber   5 Cupid Alley. Father : Anthony Wild~ Shopkeeper
Mary Ann Serginson full spinster  9 Durham Street. Father: Thomas Serginson~ Bookpeeper

Both signed
Witnesses: James Stirrup and Eliza Serginson, both signed.

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And this christening at Wolverhampton St Peters

WILD William  chr. 1 Jan 1824 son of Anthony & Elizabeth, Fathers Occ: Shop keeper.

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Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 October 13 01:04 BST (UK) »
1841 census Manchester, Deansgate ; Cupids Alley

Anthony Wild 60 general dealer    not bn in county
Elizabeth       40                           "   "    "     "
WILLIAM       17  app. plumber      "    "    "     "
Thomas        14                           "   "     "     "
Mary             12                          "    "    "     "
Elizabeth       11                        born in county

Class HO107 Piece 569  Book 4.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 October 13 01:28 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage St Peter's Wolverhampton 31 Aug 1822

Anthony Wild, wid, to Elizabeth Walker spinster,  Banns

http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/assets/userfiles/index.php?file=011680.pdf
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 October 13 01:42 BST (UK) »
As Anthony is listed as widow on the above marriage to Elizabeth Walker, could this be his first marriage, possibly to Elizabeth's sister

6 April 1820 St Peter's Wolverhampton
Anthony Wild, bachelor,   Martha Walker, spinster,  Banns.

Burial St Peter's Wolverhampton. Martha Wild,  15 Jun 1822.  Age 33

If this is correct he wasted no time getting remarried  :o

http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 October 13 21:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you, thank you all  :D

That has been a tremendous help. So nice when a hunch pays off.

Claire.t how ever did you find the marriage details for William Wild and Mary Ann Serginson???

LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 October 13 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

The marriage details come from Anc*  :)

claire
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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